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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | This issue has come up in the Rules Forum. I am not going to give my opinion I am just going to ask the question and list the options.
Some TV Series sets use their own numbering system in the overview or disc menus and some do not. With this in mind, should we:
A. Use a standard for all sets regardless of what is used in the set.
B. Use a standard ONLY for those sets that don't have a numbering system of their own.
If you vote option 'A', the standard would be: 1. Episode Title.
If you vote option 'B', the standard for sets that don't have numbering would be: 1. Episode Title. Sets that do have a numbering system would replace the number with whatever is used in that set.
NOTE: If anyone feels this poll does not represent the issues fairly, please let me know and I will have Ken lock it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | The poll seems fair to me. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | because there is problems for and problems against I am at this point on the fence on this issue. So there also definitely needs to be a discussion... not just the question. especially since no pros or cons is given for either here.
My thoughts...
Option A
Pros:
- Is easy to follow no ifs ands or buts.
- Leaves plenty of space for those extra long episode titles
Cons:
- Goes Against what is on the packaging at times.
Option B
Pros:
- "As Credited"... info taken from the actual case/disc
Cons:
- Can take up much more room as I have seen many sets have "Episode 1:Episode Title"... get that combined with a long title and you will never fit it all.
Thats all I can think of off the top of my head... As I said... I don't know which side I will fall on at this point. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | If the TV Set has an episode numbering system assigned by the producers, why would you want to use something else?
Please try not to vote based on what has already been submitted and may require re-work.
What is the more accurate, correct way to handle this? | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Space limitations is the biggest reason I can see. For me having as much of the Episode title as possible is more important than any number. | | | Are you local?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I said... I haven't decided how I feel one way or the other yet... but for the reasons I put in the pro column for it... at least to start with.
One major concern of mine is when there is long titles for the episodes with Episode 1: Episode Name and there is a long episode name (yes I have seen this)... what do we do then? Abbreviate? Crop off the end part of the title?? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
because there is problems for and problems against I am at this point on the fence on this issue. So there also definitely needs to be a discussion... not just the question. especially since no pros or cons is given for either here. I didn't give pro's or con's because I didn't want to skew the results one way or the other and I certainly can't think of every pro or con. As for discussion, I figured that would happen all by itself as it does with every other poll. Quote:
Cons:
- Can take up much more room as I have seen many sets have "Episode 1:Episode Title"... get that combined with a long title and you will never fit it all. This should not be a problem as the word 'episode' would not be included in either format...just the numbering. If the disc said, "Episode 105 The Plague", the divider would say, " 105. The Plague". We already know it is an episode so there is no reason to add that word to the divider. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
Space limitations is the biggest reason I can see. For me having as much of the Episode title as possible is more important than any number. I agree, but there was a poll and most people wanted the number as well so we need to decide what number format to use. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm not saying having a number but, I would rather have a smallest possible number 1. not something that could possibly take up more space. Depending on how the DVD producers assigned it. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting addicted2dvd:Quote:
Cons:
- Can take up much more room as I have seen many sets have "Episode 1:Episode Title"... get that combined with a long title and you will never fit it all.
This should not be a problem as the word 'episode' would not be included in either format...just the numbering.
If the disc said, "Episode 105 The Plague", the divider would say, " 105. The Plague". We already know it is an episode so there is no reason to add that word to the divider. Apparently it's open for interpretation  | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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because there is problems for and problems against I am at this point on the fence on this issue. So there also definitely needs to be a discussion... not just the question. especially since no pros or cons is given for either here.
I didn't give pro's or con's because I didn't want to skew the results one way or the other and I certainly can't think of every pro or con. As for discussion, I figured that would happen all by itself as it does with every other poll. Neither could I.. that is why I just listed what I see as pros and cons. Quote:
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Cons:
- Can take up much more room as I have seen many sets have "Episode 1:Episode Title"... get that combined with a long title and you will never fit it all.
This should not be a problem as the word 'episode' would not be included in either format...just the numbering.
If the disc said, "Episode 105 The Plague", the divider would say, " 105. The Plague". We already know it is an episode so there is no reason to add that word to the divider. We will definitely have to make that perfectly clear in the rules... because I see a lot of sets that have the word Episode on every episode. because the way I read what was brought up in the rules forum it could be read as adding Episode to every title. Also even if it is also only just 1 or 2 extra numbers we will still have to tackle how to handle those extra long titles... I have seen some titles that are so long even with no numbering they are too long. Quoting Tracer: Quote:
I'm not saying having a number but, I would rather have a smallest possible number 1. not something that could possibly take up more space. Depending on how the DVD producers assigned it. This is true... the limited space we have is my main concern at this point. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting addicted2dvd:Quote:
Cons:
- Can take up much more room as I have seen many sets have "Episode 1:Episode Title"... get that combined with a long title and you will never fit it all.
This should not be a problem as the word 'episode' would not be included in either format...just the numbering.
If the disc said, "Episode 105 The Plague", the divider would say, " 105. The Plague". We already know it is an episode so there is no reason to add that word to the divider.
Apparently it's open for interpretation So it would seem. I figured using the example "1. Episode Title' would indicate that there would only be a number followed by the title. Go figure.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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 | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | I want an option that says, Don't use Dividers, they're a bad idea and the cast list should be under the tab (when/if we get them). | | | | Dan | | | | Last edited: by Dan W |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 291 |
| | Posted: | | | | okay, it's all my bloody fault that it's now a tie... i went with B because i think telling someone a standard isn't going to stop people ping-ponging submissions or harrassing people above their votes because they want to use "exactly what's on the box cover." i have headaches already, save me another one. 1. Episode except when special numbering on the box. krik  | | | | "Vampirism is still not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead...dead...dead..." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dan W: Quote:
I want an option that says, Don't use Dividers, they're a bad idea and the cast list should be under the tab (when/if we get them). We'd have to make additional changes to the TV Set Rules for this, since they currently specifically say to use dividers for episode crew and cast. | | | | Hal |
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 | Kevin | | Registered March 22, 2001 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 609 |
| | Posted: | | | | Of course my "why use numbers at all" isn't an option I see. |
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