had the same problem with DTS, it's a rule thing I believe. If there is only one edition and it is widescreen then no edtition widescreen collection:

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The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.

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Hello, is there a consensus whether or not 'Widescreen Collection' serves as an Edition of a DVD ? Until now I always added it as edition and the submissions always got Yes votes and got accepted. But now, I am getting No votes for all movies from the Star Trek 1-10 box which all have the same Widescreen Collection banner on the cover.
I don't really mind whether or not it is a valid Edition, but I do mind if there is no consistency.

I was one of th 'No' voters for some of these contributions. I did that, because for those entries they are the ones sold originally separate before there was even a mention of a special edition and at that time it was just a normal edition. 'Widescreen Colection', is imho just a marketing trick. Later on, there where also 'Special editions'. And yes, they where labeled as such. They where also labeled again 'Widescreen Colection' (which confirms the marketing trick).

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If a DVD clearly indicates an edition, e.g. Collector's Edition, yet it is the only edition. Do we then add the Edition ? (If yes, there is again a gray area to determine whether a certain addition to the title serves as an Edition or not. I am e.g. thinking of the Movie Gold Collection or effectively this Widescreen Collection).

I'm not sure on the rules, but logic dictates    if it is labeled 'blah edition' it should be reflected in the edition field. Something like 'Movie Gold Collection' can not be a part in the edition naming since imho it is not an edition name (unless there are two otherwise identical versions, where even the EAN is the same).

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If there are two DVDs without addition in the title, but that have distinctive features. Do we then add an Edition for both of them ? E.g. I have Star Trek 1 twice (one of them is from the 1-10 box). The covers are identical. Yet, one of them has 1 disc and the other has 2 discs. Add the number of disks in the Edition for both titles ?

If there is no addition to the title, don't add one. In this example: the original/first versions of the Star Trek movies where plain and simple version (nearly no extras). Later we got real 'Special Editions'. Fist of all: you shouldn't have to go back to already existing profiles and change them, just because there is another one. Second: the new ones have the 'Special Edition' attached to them, which distinguish them.

Greetings,
Richard

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had the same problem with DTS, it's a rule thing I believe. If there is only one edition and it is widescreen then no edtition widescreen collection:

Edition
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections

However, as discussed many times before, it may not distinguish when it is actually released but, later, when a re-release comes without the banner or similar then it will distinguish. IMO therefore it's best to always add it to take account of future issues rather than having one Rule when it's a single release and another when it's re-released.

FWIW, as addicted said, every time this comes up it always ends up being correct to add it in all circumstances, mostly for the reason I just gave.

Ignore the no votes.

If it says widescreen collection on the case and you are adding it to the edition field it will most likely be approved as it is 100% within the rules.

Ok, I will wait and see what the screener decides. Like I mentioned, I don't really care, but I would like it to be consistent. If the consensus is that Widescreen Collection is an Edition, I guess my submitted changes are valid then.

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From what I've read, correct me if I'm wrong, the original poster purchsed a box set of 10 Star Trek films. These same 10 films had already been released seperately and have been profiled in DVDP. Along comes this box set which uses the same UPC/EAN numbers as the original releases but have different cover art that includes a "Widescreen Collection" banner on top of the front covers? If this is the case then the rules preclude you from adding any additional info from the re-releases to the original profiles. You will have to keep it local, including the cover art.

If I'm totally off base here, then disregard this post

You are a little bit off base .
The original release ALSO had those Widescreen Collection on them. So, the contents of the 1-10 box are identical to the previous releases. Only, the individual release profiles did not show (or not all of them) "Widescreen Collection" as the edition, even though the (already existing) cover scans show it. So that's why I added that edition and submitted that small change. But for some of the movies, I am now getting No votes (clearly from people not having the box, since I don't get No on every movie ).

Yup, every one of the original releases have the 'Widescreen Collection' banner.

As much as I hate it, it is absolutely correct to put it in the Edition field.

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had the same problem with DTS, it's a rule thing I believe. If there is only one edition and it is widescreen then no edtition widescreen collection:

Edition
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.

Why do people always ignore the second part of that sentence?  That field is also for indicating special versions and collections.  While you may not agree with it, and to be honest I don't like it, 'Widescreen Collection' IS a collection.