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Capitalization of "Is"
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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We've debated this many times before, but I thought the outcome was the same every time... The rules say:

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For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title.


IMHO, a verb like "is" does not qualify as a "joining word" (how can a verb be considered a joining word?), and as such, it should be capitalised. If you have doubts about this, please try and think what you'd for, for example, with the past tense ("was")... Would you capitalise that?

I realise that there are certain variations of the standard capitalisation rules that don't capitalise all forms of the verb "to be", but since the rules specifically use the term "joining words", and don't include an exception for all forms of "to be", I really don't think this particular variant is meant here. If it had, it could have easily been added to the listed examples... Since it isn't, I really feel the correct title for DVD Profiler purposes is 'Wrong Is Right, not 'Wrong is Right'.

But of course, once again Skip disagrees (probably just to annoy me: Skip is no stranger to voting blatantly against the rules when he doesn't like the contributor): "Incorrect title capitalization per Rules". Seeing the rules as I quoted them above, the explanation he gives is inaccurate at any rate, I thought...

FYI: the profile I've submitted this update for can be found under 043396-103368.
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All verbs should be capitalized!

Check here!
Hal
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'Is' is not a conjunction or 'joining word', as the rule calls them.  It is the present third singular of of the verb 'be'.  As such it gets capitalized in the title.
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I agree with Hal & Unicus.

But surely this rule only applies to words that are enclosed in " in the title like they are in the rule... or are we saying that the " are just highlighting the example words in this rule.
Andy

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Quoting Unicus69:
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'Is' is not a conjunction or 'joining word', as the rule calls them.  It is the present third singular of of the verb 'be'.  As such it gets capitalized in the title.


Actually the verb "to be". 
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Define "is".
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Actually this rule needs to be updated to include "joining words" (conjunctions) and "prepositions" (to, from, on, in, etc).

No the "'s are not part of the rule, or the title or anything else!
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Quoting Dan W:
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Define "is".


From M-W.com

Main Entry: 1is
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German ist is (from sIn to be), Latin est (from esse to be), Greek esti (from einai to be)
present third singular of BE
dialect present first & second singular of BE
dialect present plural of BE

No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Quoting hal9g:
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All verbs should be capitalized!

Check here!


what he said, with an extra explanation point.

come on people.

krik
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It depends on what the definition of "is" is. 
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To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?

To be is to do.

To do is to be.

Do be do be do.
If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.

Cliff
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Quoting 8ballMax:
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I didn't have sex with that woman.


Yeah right
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It's nice that (as of yet) there are 30 people who agree with me that the correct title should be "Wrong Is Right", but on my actual update, I still only have Skip's no-vote, and no yes-voters... 
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I don't have this film, so can't vote I'm afraid, but just for the record, how is it written on the title screen? Or is it all in capitals, so no way to tell?
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I don't own that title either. I sure hope it's not "Wrong "Is" Right" .
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