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Save HD-DVD! Petition Online
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDavidEC
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Dear Friends,

I have just read and signed the online petition:

  "Save HD-DVD! (Warner Brothers, The Consumer Has Not "Clearly" Chosen Blu-Ray)"

hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:

  http://www.PetitionOnline.com/SAVEHDD/

I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too.  If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.

Best wishes
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No the consumer didn't want to choose and therefore Warner took their responsibility and choose one of the two formats. In this case they went blue, they could have gone red.
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While I would rather have seen HD DVD become the standard, I think it's high time that the format war comes to an end. I very seriously doubt that a petition will carry any substantial weight in the matter.
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I wasn't really for either of them, but I have a PS3 so if BD finally wins, I don't have to go out and buy a HD-DVD player. YAY
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Electronic petitions are worth the paper they're printed on.

I didn't care really who won being purple and all, I'm just glad that the format war isn't being dragged out forever.

The HD-DVD folks backing the format must be passing bricks 'bout now.
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I basically wait until either the one or other system has clearly won. I'm not buying any HD equipment before that happened.
And basically I don't care what system it will be... 
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I'm waiting until I can play the disks in the mini-van.  No way I'm buying two copies of every damn cartoon that comes around. 
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Quoting DavidEC:
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Dear Friends,

I have just read and signed the online petition:

  "Save HD-DVD! (Warner Brothers, The Consumer Has Not "Clearly" Chosen Blu-Ray)"

I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too.  If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.

Best wishes


the problem as others have said is that there had to be an end to these format wars.

The petition seems to suggest that if they (Warners) had chose HD_DVD to be exclusive then that would be ok. So would that mean a petition would have to be started to extol the virtues of blu ray?

The consumer couldn't make the choice - so someone else had to.
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This actually has lttile to do with Warner, Sony or Toshiba. It has more to do with the recognition on yhe parts of all parties, EXCEPT the consumer, that retailers wouldnot continue supporting two separate formats indefinitely. Whether or not the dealers actually flexed their muscles and forced a decision is something I am not privy to, but the if they didn't, they more than likely would have in the very near future. It's a different battleground today than it was back in my day of VHS vs. Beta, we didn't have these massive "big box" stores that are capable of dealing in far larger quantities of product than the smaller stores of my day did. Because of that, I have a natural desire to let the two formats slug it out and may the best man win, but the reality of todays retail environment precludes that much of the time.

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Why would anyone (consumer, that is) want to prolong this war?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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I was HD DVD only.  When Warner went blu, I went purple.  I still wish HD DVD had won because I prefer it as a format.  But at this point, I'm throwing my weight (buying dollars) behind Blu-ray.  Dragging this out even further isn't doing anyone any good.

So there's no way I'll touch this petition. 
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Quoting Mark Harrison:
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I was HD DVD only.  When Warner went blu, I went purple.  I still wish HD DVD had won because I prefer it as a format.  But at this point, I'm throwing my weight (buying dollars) behind Blu-ray.  Dragging this out even further isn't doing anyone any good.

So there's no way I'll touch this petition. 


HD-DVD was a good thing but I like to look for the future with more space on one disk so Blu-Ray have the storage capacity that HD-DVD dont have. And the 200gb and 1tb is comming soon for Blu-Ray

And me to there's no way I'll touch this petition. 
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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Quoting Ralliart:
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HD-DVD was a good thing but I like to look for the future with more space on one disk so Blu-Ray have the storage capacity that HD-DVD dont have. And the 200gb and 1tb is comming soon for Blu-Ray

Back when the war started, I believed that BluRay would win - for two reasons. The first one being that BR has double the storage space (50GB vs. 25GB), and for that reason alone, I knew that I personally as a computer user would prefer burning/backing up to BR-discs.

The other reason is "politics." While Sony screwed up royally with their CD copy protection that resulted in most CD players refusing to play the damn thing, they admitted to it and thrashed the whole project. I believe that the average consumers/computer users "hatred" is directed more against Microsoft than Sony, and to me, it is very probable that HD-DVDs death (okay, so "failure to be accepted by the broader buying public") is simply because Microsoft was a major part behind it!

We - the consumers - have the power. If a majority of the consumers go for one format, the companies trying to make money will go for that format too.

Ofcourse, price plays a role too, and it was pricing that won the VHS/Beta war. While Beta was technically a better format, the players and tapes were simply to expensive compared with VHS, which landed VHS the victory...

And no, I haven't bought a HD-player (yet), mostly because I haven't had "time" (read: money) to do so - and if I had, I would have - and still would - go blue.
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I was HD DVD only.  But at this point, I'm throwing my weight (buying dollars) behind Blu-ray.  Dragging this out even further isn't doing anyone any good.

So there's no way I'll touch this petition. 


Let me know when your HD DVD's are for sale..

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I figured that it was most likely going to be Blu-Ray that eventually won, but I was not going to spend any of my money until this was a done deal.

While all of the movie studios played a part in the outcome, it was the consumers who made the decision.  Blu-Ray was outselling HD DVD by a large margin.  Not that there was a high volume on either side.  But, the studios were definitely watching to see what the consumers were doing.


One thing that I don't understand though...  In reading about the coming demise of HD DVD, it was stated that the navigation on the HD DVD side was better.  How is the navigation tied to the physical media format?  In my experience as a programmer, the user interface is not tied to the underlying structure.  It is actually the purpose of the user interface to hide these complexities.

I have not used either HD DVD or Blu-Ray, so I have no personal experience with either to help me understand this.
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Quoting jgilligan:
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I figured that it was most likely going to be Blu-Ray that eventually won, but I was not going to spend any of my money until this was a done deal.

While all of the movie studios played a part in the outcome, it was the consumers who made the decision.  Blu-Ray was outselling HD DVD by a large margin.  Not that there was a high volume on either side.  But, the studios were definitely watching to see what the consumers were doing.


One thing that I don't understand though...  In reading about the coming demise of HD DVD, it was stated that the navigation on the HD DVD side was better.  How is the navigation tied to the physical media format?  In my experience as a programmer, the user interface is not tied to the underlying structure.  It is actually the purpose of the user interface to hide these complexities.

I have not used either HD DVD or Blu-Ray, so I have no personal experience with either to help me understand this.


I read somewhere that HD DVD screen menu was easier setup than Blue Ray was as per navigation.
The BD discs do hold 25% more information than HDD does.., But I hear they are more prone to scratches, than HDD is., as this information is Just under the surface of the plastic thin coating, where as HDD  'pits' are three times deeper.  Both discs prices are the same.,  Also  The BD players are twice more expensive,,and in today's economy I thought the all mighty buck $poke first over quantity,., 
( not quality)  but quantity.
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