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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 489 |
| Posted: | | | | Yesterday I went to vote early. I have Multiple Sclerosis, and am currently suffering from shingles. So right now I can barely walk a 100 feet even with the two crutches I usually rely on. So when I got there a polling official told me to sit in a chair near check in and they would get my wife and I right in so I did not have to wait long. Well after I voted my wife was not done just yet so I returned to the chair I had sat in before, and that is when a different official said this to me, " I am sorry sir you cannot sit there. That chair is reserved for people that are in wheelchairs." I was so flabbergasted I could not even stammer out a reply. It was then my wife was finished so we left. If this is the type of person helping run the polling places what hope do we have for our future???? Bobb | | | Do Cheshire Cats drink evaporated milk? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | IMOHO..,,, Maybe that official didn't see you walking with your crutches back to the chair., they only saw you sitting there, and presumed you were a fit individual.., Plus they are overwhelmed with so many personal responsibilities to the public, he just didn't use good judgment in analysing the situation... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 273 |
| Posted: | | | | No comedian could invent such a stupid situation. | | | Last edited: by detlefs |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: IMOHO..,,, Maybe that official didn't see you walking with your crutches back to the chair., they only saw you sitting there, and presumed you were a fit individual.., Plus they are overwhelmed with so many personal responsibilities to the public, he just didn't use good judgment in analysing the situation...
yes.. but.. would a person in a wheelchair need a normal chair to sit in? | | | Paul |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | My grandmother used to run into the same type of situation. She had a total of 5 heart attacks and quadruple bypass surgery plus numerous complications over the years. The problem was she actually looked quite healthy; good color, seldom used a walker, very few gray hairs (oh she was proud of this one!) etc. I can't tell you how many times people got angry at her for having handicapped plates. Grandma had a very unique way of explaining her disability; she used to pull her top down a couple of inches or her pant leg up a few to show the huge scars her surgeries left behind! I'm afraid that there are many healthy people who take advantage of handicapped parking, sitting, etc. This can lead to people making snap judgments about others if they don't understand or see the disability. I would hope a quick explanation would have not only helped you but would increase the polling official's understanding of disabilities. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Registered: April 4, 2007 | Posts: 879 |
| Posted: | | | | My girlfriend is 25 and an orphan and gets an orphan-pension which means she qualifies for all kind of pensioner rebates, just like people over 65. You can imagine what kind of looks she gets when she asks for them | | | - Jan |
| Registered: March 17, 2007 | Posts: 853 |
| Posted: | | | | It is funny, my wife and I were discussing this just a few minutes ago. An obese, older man, came roaring up next to us in a sports car. As he passed I noticed he had disabled plates. He pulled into the dry cleaners and popped out of his car like he was healthy but very over weight. He could have had something wrong and I didn't see it. Personally though I think he used his weight to get those plates (because in AZ obesity is a disability according to MVD) and now someone who really needed that space won't get it. In my opinion most people who are truly disabled do not crush down into a sports cars. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 489 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: My grandmother used to run into the same type of situation. She had a total of 5 heart attacks and quadruple bypass surgery plus numerous complications over the years. The problem was she actually looked quite healthy; good color, seldom used a walker, very few gray hairs (oh she was proud of this one!) etc. I can't tell you how many times people got angry at her for having handicapped plates. Grandma had a very unique way of explaining her disability; she used to pull her top down a couple of inches or her pant leg up a few to show the huge scars her surgeries left behind!
I'm afraid that there are many healthy people who take advantage of handicapped parking, sitting, etc. This can lead to people making snap judgments about others if they don't understand or see the disability. I would hope a quick explanation would have not only helped you but would increase the polling official's understanding of disabilities. That happens to me when I park my car and am not using my wheelchair. Fortunately the MS society has a brochure called "But You Look So Good". And whenever someone makes a comment to me I hand them one of those. People do not realize that many of us have hidden disAbilities, Heart failure, Emphysema, and others. But I do agree sometimes the system is abused. Here in Texas if you have one of those hanging tags they put your drivers license number on the back. So the cops check that everyone is legally parked. Bobb | | | Do Cheshire Cats drink evaporated milk? |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 489 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: IMOHO..,,, Maybe that official didn't see you walking with your crutches back to the chair., they only saw you sitting there, and presumed you were a fit individual.., Plus they are overwhelmed with so many personal responsibilities to the public, he just didn't use good judgment in analysing the situation...
The problem was I was leaning on the crutches to stay upright on the chair. Bobb | | | Do Cheshire Cats drink evaporated milk? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,372 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote: It is funny, my wife and I were discussing this just a few minutes ago. An obese, older man, came roaring up next to us in a sports car. As he passed I noticed he had disabled plates. He pulled into the dry cleaners and popped out of his car like he was healthy but very over weight. He could have had something wrong and I didn't see it. Personally though I think he used his weight to get those plates (because in AZ obesity is a disability according to MVD) and now someone who really needed that space won't get it. In my opinion most people who are truly disabled do not crush down into a sports cars. You don't have any idea what his disability may be. Not everyone who needs a handicap spot drives a van with hand controls... [soapbox] My wife and I get it all the time. She is 48 and looks fine yet cannot stand for more than a minute or two without her heart racing to over 150bpm. The looks we get are disgraceful when we use a handicap spot. People make judgments against us constantly. She is also treated very rudely by people who are asked to get her motorized carts in the stores. And then, after she gets one, she has to deal with the looks from people. You can see it in their faces "she doesn't look disabled" Typically we ignore it and go about our business but many times it really gets to us (mostly her - like she enjoys having to use the freggin cart at Target or something). Just keep in mind there are all types of disabilities that could require someone to need special treatment, whether that is a close parking space, a chair to sit in, or even something as simple as them having a bottle of water with them all the time (guilty). Some of these disabilities have very few outside signs. I suggest next time pretend it's you mother, father, sister, etc. and treat them with some respect, someday it could be you. [/soapbox] |
| Registered: March 17, 2007 | Posts: 853 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote: Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
Quote: It is funny, my wife and I were discussing this just a few minutes ago. An obese, older man, came roaring up next to us in a sports car. As he passed I noticed he had disabled plates. He pulled into the dry cleaners and popped out of his car like he was healthy but very over weight. He could have had something wrong and I didn't see it. Personally though I think he used his weight to get those plates (because in AZ obesity is a disability according to MVD) and now someone who really needed that space won't get it. In my opinion most people who are truly disabled do not crush down into a sports cars.
You don't have any idea what his disability may be. Not everyone who needs a handicap spot drives a van with hand controls...
[soapbox] My wife and I get it all the time. She is 48 and looks fine yet cannot stand for more than a minute or two without her heart racing to over 150bpm. The looks we get are disgraceful when we use a handicap spot.
People make judgments against us constantly. She is also treated very rudely by people who are asked to get her motorized carts in the stores. And then, after she gets one, she has to deal with the looks from people. You can see it in their faces "she doesn't look disabled" Typically we ignore it and go about our business but many times it really gets to us (mostly her - like she enjoys having to use the freggin cart at Target or something).
Just keep in mind there are all types of disabilities that could require someone to need special treatment, whether that is a close parking space, a chair to sit in, or even something as simple as them having a bottle of water with them all the time (guilty). Some of these disabilities have very few outside signs. I suggest next time pretend it's you mother, father, sister, etc. and treat them with some respect, someday it could be you. [/soapbox] I find it sad that you needed to get on a soapbox and that you only took one sentence from a paragraph. And the angry face what the heck is that all about? I admitted that I did not know the man or his condition. I do know in AZ since there is really no oversight, people CONSTANTLY abuse the privilege. I knew a girl at the UofA who drove her moms car to school. It had disabled plates and she used them, there was zero wrong with her. I am sorry you have had bad experiences, that is no reason to point your frustrations at me. In the future maybe you should think of others as your mother, father, sister, etc. before you climb on a soapbox and pass judgments. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bobb: Quote: Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote: IMOHO..,,, Maybe that official didn't see you walking with your crutches back to the chair., they only saw you sitting there, and presumed you were a fit individual.., Plus they are overwhelmed with so many personal responsibilities to the public, he just didn't use good judgment in analysing the situation...
The problem was I was leaning on the crutches to stay upright on the chair. Not only that, but somebody in a wheelchair doesn't need a chair reserved for them...they are already in one. I have had to set up prefered seating areas for disabled people. The chairs are always reserved for those that can walk, as opposed to those who need a wheelchair, as their need is greater. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote: I find it sad that you needed to get on a soapbox and that you only took one sentence from a paragraph. And the angry face what the heck is that all about? I admitted that I did not know the man or his condition. I do know in AZ since there is really no oversight, people CONSTANTLY abuse the privilege. I knew a girl at the UofA who drove her moms car to school. It had disabled plates and she used them, there was zero wrong with her. I am sorry you have had bad experiences, that is no reason to point your frustrations at me. In the future maybe you should think of others as your mother, father, sister, etc. before you climb on a soapbox and pass judgments. Sorry, but I gotta agree with Rick. Your final sentence, "In my opinion most people who are truly disabled do not crush down into a sports cars," was a generalization without merit. I know quite a few 'truly disabled' people who drive sports cars...and why shouldn't they? Rick did not pass judgement, you did. What Rick did, and rightly so in my opinion, was call you on it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 147 |
| Posted: | | | | My wife has a kidney disorder that leaves her constantly dehydrated. She carries a container of filtered water with her at all times. We've been hassled at movie theaters, retail stores, concerts, flea markets, etc. I've gotten quite good at the patience game, especially with mall cops who just like to throw their authority around.
When we went to see Iron Man this last summer, I had a pimply faced kid behind the counter at the concession threaten to call the cops if she didn't throw the container out. I explained that she had a condition and he called me a liar. My temper was beginning to rise, especially since my wife was beginning to get upset, but luckily (for the kid and possibly me) the manager, who we know personally, came in just then and handled the situation.
We also have a friend who was born with two clubbed feet. He has since had multiple surgeries to correct the problem but he has a hard time walking long distances, so he has handicapped tags. The wife and I were recently travelling to Green Bay with he and his wife. We'd pulled into a gas station for a pit stop and he parked in the handicapped spot. He and I were waiting for the ladies to finish up, and a burly state trooper came up to him and began making threats about his right to use that spot. Luckily, again, Fitz was able to calmly explain the situation. But the trooper noted that Fitz could have stayed in the truck while the rest of us used the facilities. Fitz replied, "I didn't want to stink up my truck when I had to go. But thanks for the tip." We hurried out of there before the trooper decided to be a bigger ass. | | | I was wise once; when I was born, I cried - Welsh proverb | | | Last edited: by Bluefox75 |
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