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Is anybody else collecting all the Disney Cartoons or Criterions on Blu-ay |
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Registered: October 19, 2008 | Posts: 409 |
| Posted: | | | | 1- Is anyboday collecting all og the Criterion Blu Rays? 2- Is anybody collecting all of the Disney Animated Featurares on Blu Ray? 3- Is anybody collecting any other sets on Blu Ray that you missed on DVD? 4- Is anybody collecting any sets on Blu Ray? I have gotten all the criterions on blu ray so far. I am in the process of collecting all the disney cartoon features, including chepquals, partially animated film,studio Jibilee and Pixiar. I am still waiting on the Disney club but they are taking forever to send out my intoductary offer. Are you collecting things on Blu Ray that you missed the boat on, with DV? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't think I'll be getting all of the Criterion releases because frankly I'm not interested in all their films, or I've already bought other editions of them on Blu-ray. But I am collecting all Disney and Pixar features so far. Already own(ed) them on DVD so this is the second (and sometimes third) time I buy them... | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
| Registered: October 19, 2008 | Posts: 409 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote: I don't think I'll be getting all of the Criterion releases because frankly I'm not interested in all their films, or I've already bought other editions of them on Blu-ray. But I am collecting all Disney and Pixar features so far. Already own(ed) them on DVD so this is the second (and sometimes third) time I buy them... I know what you mean for some of those movies. Beauhty and the Beast just came out and it is already being rerelesed in 3D. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Well, luckily I have no interest in 3D whatsoever so I'm pretty sure this will be the last time I have to buy them. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | 3D is wonderful if you like an expensive way of seeing films darker, out of focus, and often headache inducing. Not one 3D film made is better from the use of the technology. The effects remain in the Three Stooges "throw an object at the camera" level, and every 3D picture made looks sharper and brighter in 2D.
While the paralax shift tricks your brain into feeling that things are nearer or farther away, your eyes must remain focussed on the plane of the screen, confusing more than 20% of all people who view 3D films and television. This gimmick to lure people away from TV and back into movie theaters was a failure more than 50 years ago and nothing has been done to upgrade the failed technology.
It remains a method to increase the revenue without increasing the value. Why bother to write a good script, hire performers who can act and directors and editors who are artists when you can make things go "boom" and earn more money?
No thank you.
Addressing the subject of this thread: I have bought a few Criterion Blu-rays, and many (but not all) Disney Blu-ray versions of animated works. There are some films I want in the clearest medium available, and others I care little about (not a fan of Cars). | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff | | | Last edited: by VibroCount |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote: 3D is wonderful if you like an expensive way of seeing films darker, out of focus, and often headache inducing. Not one 3D film made is better from the use of the technology. The effects remain in the Three Stooges "throw an object at the camera" level, and every 3D picture made looks sharper and brighter in 2D.
While the paralax shift tricks your brain into feeling that things are nearer or farther away, your eyes must remain focussed on the plane of the screen, confusing more than 20% of all people who view 3D films and television. This gimmick to lure people away from TV and back into movie theaters was a failure more than 50 years ago and nothing has been done to upgrade the failed technology.
It remains a method to increase the revenue without increasing the value. Why bother to write a good script, hire performers who can act and directors and editors who are artists when you can make things go "boom" and earn more money?
No thank you.
Addressing the subject of this thread: I have bought a few Criterion Blu-rays, and many (but not all) Disney Blu-ray versions of animated works. There are some films I want in the clearest medium available, and others I care little about (not a fan of Cars). Wow!!! Tell us how you really feel . Personally, I’ve enjoyed almost all of the 3D titles I’ve purchased. The picture is a little darker than I’d like but other than that, the picture is sharp and clear. The 3D depth looks great on most of the films and the effects are amazing. I have suffered no ill effects at all, i.e., dizziness, nausea or headaches. I guess I fall out of your 20% of confused people . | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | I've edited and created artwork for papers written by Richard Felix who researches visual technology. He has created nightvision glasses for the US Army, the technology used orginally by the New York Times to create computer-imaged spherical photographs (think of the spherical images used by Google Earth in its street view mode) and many 3D devices (he uses my 1950's Kodak 3D 35mm camera when he needs to create his own photos). Together, Richard and I have travelled to see many 3D films and art exibitions... starting with our 1973 trip to Dallas to view Catwomen of the Moon, Dangerous Mission, Devil's Canyon, The French Line and Outlaw Territory at D-Con '73.
He (but not I) went to see Avatar at our local Imax in 3D. He spoke to me often at how beatiful the effects were and how much fun he had watching the movie. We discussed the themes, characters and plot of the film before I saw it. I told him it sounded like a nice cross between Ferngully and Dances with Wolves. When the Blu-ray came out, I bought the 2D version and he came to my home to watch it on my 55" TV. While we were watching it, he would tell me about where the 3D effects were particularly good. At the end of watching it, we spoke about the merits of 3D to the 2D version he just saw. And he concluded that the 2D version was better, preferring what he saw as a sharper image in my 1080 HD way than the huge Imax version. He thought the film gained little from 3D beyond a few "wow" factor moments, but that the film was more beautiful in 2D.
I went with my wife and our daughter to see Toy Story 3 at the Imax in 3D. It was fun. When I got the Blu-ray, I felt the film lost nothing by losing the third dimension. Again, I see little more than a gimmick to raise profits.
I think if filmgoers enjoy special effects, they will enjoy 3D films. If they prefer storytelling and characterization, 3D will mean little. Those who enjoy both will have ambiguously mixed emotions. Those 20% who get headaches will resent the entire idea. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff | | | Last edited: by VibroCount |
| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,878 |
| Posted: | | | | I have been, or will be, picking up all of the classic Disney cartoons on blu-ray, as well as the Pixar films and the Studio Ghibli films. I could care less about the vast majority of the cheapquels, so I won't bother with those on blu (I don't own most of them on DVD).
Criterion is a bit trickier - I want the complete collection (sans like two), so if I don't own it already I'm picking it up on blu-ray. But since there are so many that I don't own yet, I'm not upgrading unless it's a particular favorite film of mine, it comes in my shop where I can trade it out, or the blu-ray is already slated to go oop. I just picked up Kes today, but at the same shop are blus of Amarcord, Fat Girl, & Charade, which I already have on DVD. If at some point I get all the films I'm missing, then I'll upgrade the DVD copies. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | My disinterest in 3D is caused by a physical condition rather than any aesthetical preferences. I don't have binocular eye vision and it can't be corrected with glasses which means stereoscopic 3D is useless to me. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 950 |
| Posted: | | | | For me, if it's Disney and I'm missing it, I'll upgrade (though there was one double dip because buying made you eligible for something else they were offering) to the 4 disco combo version. That way I can still watch the dvd, but will eventually be able to see the features when I go blu. However, I'm not going to double dip just for blu ray. I feel like Disney spent a lot of time upgrading the ones I do have and they'll look just fine on the blu player.
As for Criterion, I haven't bought any in blu. I've watched several but only liked a handful. I can see why they chose the movies to give the special treatment too, but most aren't to my taste. If there were any that were released that I was interested in, I'd probably buy the best version of it.
As for 3D, I've only watched about 2 movies that I've really enjoyed in 3D. I think the key is that the movie has to be made for it. Not just as an afterthought. Saw Nightmare Before Christmas in 3D and it sucked. What they added was hard to see and kind of gave me a headache trying to spot. But Journey to the Center of the Earth ,which they filmed that way and made effort to use 3D, turned out great. The dinosaur really felt like it was going to drool on you. But watching it at home, I prefer the 2D version, much more watchable like that without the paper glasses. | | | Lori |
| Registered: October 19, 2008 | Posts: 409 |
| Posted: | | | | I am supporting 3D. It is a differant way of exsperiencing film. I am sure there were a lot of people that were opposed to talkies, color, and THX. I think it is too early to condem it. |
| Registered: October 19, 2008 | Posts: 409 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote: I have been, or will be, picking up all of the classic Disney cartoons on blu-ray, as well as the Pixar films and the Studio Ghibli films. I could care less about the vast majority of the cheapquels, so I won't bother with those on blu (I don't own most of them on DVD).
Criterion is a bit trickier - I want the complete collection (sans like two), so if I don't own it already I'm picking it up on blu-ray. But since there are so many that I don't own yet, I'm not upgrading unless it's a particular favorite film of mine, it comes in my shop where I can trade it out, or the blu-ray is already slated to go oop. I just picked up Kes today, but at the same shop are blus of Amarcord, Fat Girl, & Charade, which I already have on DVD. If at some point I get all the films I'm missing, then I'll upgrade the DVD copies. Breaking Street date Fat Girl is not supposed to be out until Tuesday,LOL. |
| Registered: October 19, 2008 | Posts: 409 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting LJG: Quote: For me, if it's Disney and I'm missing it, I'll upgrade (though there was one double dip because buying made you eligible for something else they were offering) to the 4 disco combo version. That way I can still watch the dvd, but will eventually be able to see the features when I go blu. However, I'm not going to double dip just for blu ray. I feel like Disney spent a lot of time upgrading the ones I do have and they'll look just fine on the blu player.
As for Criterion, I haven't bought any in blu. I've watched several but only liked a handful. I can see why they chose the movies to give the special treatment too, but most aren't to my taste. If there were any that were released that I was interested in, I'd probably buy the best version of it.
As for 3D, I've only watched about 2 movies that I've really enjoyed in 3D. I think the key iBlu Ray. that the movie has to be made for it. Not just as an afterthought. Saw Nightmare Before Christmas in 3D and it sucked. What they added was hard to see and kind of gave me a headache trying to spot. But Journey to the Center of the Earth ,which they filmed that way and made effort to use 3D, turned out great. The dinosaur really felt like it was going to drool on you. But watching it at home, I prefer the 2D version, much more watchable like that without the paper glasses. I did not even know that they had Nightmare before Cristmas and Dinasours in 3D, I want them. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Jericko1: Quote: Quoting LJG:
Quote: For me, if it's Disney and I'm missing it, I'll upgrade (though there was one double dip because buying made you eligible for something else they were offering) to the 4 disco combo version. That way I can still watch the dvd, but will eventually be able to see the features when I go blu. However, I'm not going to double dip just for blu ray. I feel like Disney spent a lot of time upgrading the ones I do have and they'll look just fine on the blu player.
As for Criterion, I haven't bought any in blu. I've watched several but only liked a handful. I can see why they chose the movies to give the special treatment too, but most aren't to my taste. If there were any that were released that I was interested in, I'd probably buy the best version of it.
As for 3D, I've only watched about 2 movies that I've really enjoyed in 3D. I think the key iBlu Ray. that the movie has to be made for it. Not just as an afterthought. Saw Nightmare Before Christmas in 3D and it sucked. What they added was hard to see and kind of gave me a headache trying to spot. But Journey to the Center of the Earth ,which they filmed that way and made effort to use 3D, turned out great. The dinosaur really felt like it was going to drool on you. But watching it at home, I prefer the 2D version, much more watchable like that without the paper glasses. I did not even know that they had Nightmare before Cristmas and Dinasours in 3D, I want them. Both "Nightmare Before Christmas" and "Journey to the Center of the Earth" are currently only available in anaglyph 3D (red-cyan plastic glasses). They are not yet available on Blu-ray 3D. "Nightmare Before Christmas" is scheduled to be released sometime this year in Blu-ray 3D but no date has been given. It will undoubtedly be a 2D-3D conversion. "Journey to the Center of the Earth" was actually filmed with the Fusion Camera System using Real D Cinema and Dolby 3D and will be released on Blu-ray 3D but no release date has been set. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 950 |
| Posted: | | | | Yeah, I was talking about in the theaters that they felt that realistic. I have yet to see a home version that is worth the effort. But I admit, I haven't seen a blu-ray one yet. Have one, but don't have the equipment to view it that way. Journey to the Center of the Earth was very obviously filmed with 3D in mind. Nightmare, not so much. Stick with the 2D, it's much better. All the 3D did, was have Jack's legs stick out from the screen a little and when it snowed, the flakes came down a bit 3D. But that's it. Not worth it at all. | | | Lori |
| Registered: October 19, 2008 | Posts: 409 |
| Posted: | | | | Two that I love and are excellent at home are Hubble 3D and Tangled 3D. 3D at home does not give vertigo and the glasses are not covered eith all kinds of poullitents. |
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