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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Skywatcher: Quote:
That's why I don't go for the Major upgrade re-buy so much. There are a lot of if's and but's. Starting with what would be a major upgrade anyway (of course that would be for Ken to decide).
I'm more for the subscription scheme. Whomever didn't like it could not subscribe and keep the basic services. Whoever wanted more, would jump for the subscription (yearly, monthly, whatever).
Something like Step 1: freeloaders (basic features, with limits from a certain point onwards). Step 2: Registered users (basic features, no limitations). Step 3: Subscribers (extra features). And exactly what are we paying a subscription fee for? The use of a program that we've already paid for? Access to data that we as users have created and uploaded to the database? | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 315 |
| | Posted: | | | | No 8ball, you got me wrong. My suggestion would be (if you see a few posts back), additional (probably online) features for subscribers. This was talked back a long time ago in the IVS forums. That's where the name My Profiler Plus appeared, if I recall.
Costumizable online collection skin.
Signature generation
on-line loaning management
different listing of the dvds
etc, etc... just insert a suggestion here.
I'm not personally interested in some of the above, but it was just to give you an idea of what I was saying.
And yes, I know I was ripping ideas from phpProfiler. it's almost 4am here, sleep is enemy of originality
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 61 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think what SkyWatcher was referring to might be additional online/local functions that are not available to standard registration. I know of several utilities that I use that offer a one time registration fee that have additional modules or features that are made available on an annual subscription fee basis. Two of the most noteworthy are McAfee Antivirus/Firewall Suite and Norton Anti-Virus. Both are available for a fixed cost. However, dat/security updates are based on an annual subscription fee for both. I for one would be willing to pay an upgrade fee for major program enhancements where significant changes are made adding new features/functionality. In addition, I would consider a subscription service that offered additional functionality that would make my data entry easier or provide a method to easily and quickly go from DVDP to my favorite online store accounts and automatically locate my DVD to do quick shopping comparisons (sort of like the feature from 2.4 but more robust). I know that others could think of functionality they would like and be willing to pay a subscription fee for as well.
P.S. Looks like he posted his own reply while I was typing. Oh well, my two cents anyway. | | | NightHawke
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think the current system is good, the program should always work as it is now. With a pay per update, is the thing that after that the older versions wount work properly anymore. I think compleatly new features, that dont effect the ones that deside not to upgrade would be something id pay for. For example a better online collection would be one of those.
If the program would have annual fees, i would have never bought it. When the program is very dependant of the online system. It would make older versions obsolete if it was pay per update, unless of course such update woudnt have any effect on the older versions, in that case it could be a good idea. But that could result in a scenario where there would be a dozen versions that should be kept working, which i dont see doing any good for progress. | | | | Last edited: by whispering |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | An annual maintenance fee of $9.95 would be more than sufficient in my estimation. If you figure a conservative user base (active users) of 100,000 that would be nearly a Million dollars in revenue.
Quite reasonable I'd say. | | | John
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
"Applies when the program moves to the next major version number."
That would be $20 for 3.x, theoretically and $20 for 4.x when we get there.
Skip A major version change would be from 3.whatever to 4.whatever - a whole number jump. Minor upgrades are what we have had so far from 3.0 to 3.0.1 to 3.0.2, etc. | | | John
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 630 |
| | Posted: | | | | I do not like option 4, as it makes it an economical decission what the version number should be - with a major version increase when "it's time they pay again" - and a minor version increase when "they just paid, can't do it to them again" instead of basing the version numbering of features and other technical details.
I would be fine with a yearly subscription, but would not expect it to cost more than 1/4 - 1/3 of what it currently charged for the life time registration. | | | Regards
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FunkyLA: Quote:
I think the one off fee- with a enhanched service for a yearly fee FWIW I agree; a one off fee to cover the >50 present functionality but I'd be happy to pay a monthly/annual fee for additional online (or very good additional offline) functionality. As an aside I agree the pay at a 'major' upgrade is good in theory but in practice leaving the decision of when to upgrade to 4.0 etc. to the designer seems a bit suspect  | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Puhlease. How can you compare a new version of a video game with a program enhancement?
According to your logic, every time a feature or enhancement is added to DVD Profiler, you would like to pay an additional $20.00? Then owe Ken $40.00 already as there have been 2 new versions since 3.0 was released in March. You'll owe him another $20.00 soon when 3.03 comes out of beta and is released as 3.04. This program could end up costing you $100s  . Skip have already guess correctly what I say. No problem when they are a new version (3.x to 4.x), free update for version update (3.3 to 3.4). I don't think that Ken will use this to overcharge us, he is not Microsoft or Electronic Arts  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Skywatcher: Quote:
No 8ball, you got me wrong. My suggestion would be (if you see a few posts back), additional (probably online) features for subscribers. This was talked back a long time ago in the IVS forums. That's where the name My Profiler Plus appeared, if I recall.
Costumizable online collection skin.
Signature generation
on-line loaning management
different listing of the dvds
etc, etc... just insert a suggestion here.
I'm not personally interested in some of the above, but it was just to give you an idea of what I was saying.
And yes, I know I was ripping ideas from phpProfiler. it's almost 4am here, sleep is enemy of originality
Cheers, Ohhh....  . I misunderstood. That would be a valuble option for those interested in it I suppose. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
An annual maintenance fee of $9.95 would be more than sufficient in my estimation. If you figure a conservative user base (active users) of 100,000 that would be nearly a Million dollars in revenue.
Quite reasonable I'd say. I disagree. Server maintenance is part of the Cost of Doing Business which is all factored in to the pricing of the software. At least it should be IMO. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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An annual maintenance fee of $9.95 would be more than sufficient in my estimation. If you figure a conservative user base (active users) of 100,000 that would be nearly a Million dollars in revenue.
Quite reasonable I'd say.
I disagree. Server maintenance is part of the Cost of Doing Business which is all factored in to the pricing of the software. At least it should be IMO. I didn't even mention server maintenance. ??? I'm talking about program updates. | | | John
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't see an option in the poll for me. I bought the program with free upgrades for life. I think it's worth far more than that, but that's the deal I paid for. And I seriously doubt Ken would (or perhaps even could?) change that benefit at this point. If he did change it, I'd gladly pay more. But I think there'd be an uprising among the less fanatical of us.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
I don't see an option in the poll for me. I bought the program with free upgrades for life. I think it's worth far more than that, but that's the deal I paid for. And I seriously doubt Ken would (or perhaps even could?) change that benefit at this point. If he did change it, I'd gladly pay more. But I think there'd be an uprising among the less fanatical of us. You think? Look at some of the complaints on this board about having to pay for it in the first place!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 291 |
| | Posted: | | | | was this poll started because that guy complained that he wasn't getting a fair shake with a free version? i'm not certain i understand why this is being debated unless the company is interested in sparking such a discussion. in other words, am i missing something? krik  in the extreme... | | | | "Vampirism is still not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead...dead...dead..." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,493 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't see the significance in this thread either.,, It's like we could start a thread asking if the price of movies or DVD's should be the same, go higher, go lower etc etc...
The important thing for all to think about is : The Invelos software Program is the best kept secret on the Planet., The more the word gets out (on our best kept secret) the more subscribers it will attract, and that should keep the price of this program in check for all of us to enjoy 365 days of the year.
Hands down the Best Program of 2007.
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