Quoting Lord Of The Sith:

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An inconvenient truth has already been proven as bull by some of the top scientists in the world.  The film is so bad that in some theaters in England there is actually a disclaimer at the beginning, that evidence does not point to the films conclusions. There is one other thing the video leaves out.  I do not have a degree in climatology, but I do possess degrees in both Social Services and Psychology.  I know for a FACT that a GLOBAL DEPRESSION that dwarfs the 1930's will also breed armed conflict that will make WWI and WWII combined look like a picnic.  When people are starving and their children are crying because their bellies are empty, they will do anything for food, including kill their neighbors who they used to be friends with. 

what a load of crap. The overall message of the film has not been 'proven as bull' by some of the top scientists. Instead it has been agreed that the overall message is correct but that some of the minor details are still unknown.

It's only scientists bought by the great polluters in the US who are trying to deny global warming. Thankfully the rest of the world knows that action must be taken - what a shame that the US president was bought off with the use of campaign contributions and has so far avoided making any contribution to the work being done by other nations.

You should play the video again, you don't seem to have understood it after the first viewing.

Quoting Lord Of The Sith:

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All in all, I believe that some investment is necessary and that we need to figure out some solutions.  I do not believe that we need to bankrupt the world economy or dump ever penny into a fund  to fix what may be the natural course of things.

If the investment in making the necessary changes had been done in 1980 - when this was first discussed then the cost would have been marginal.

But naturally it was seen as politically inconvenient to spend anything by governments - much better to leave it to the next govt to fix..

We have now run out of time.

I got my first negative reputation vote for starting this thread.   

Quoting m.cellophane:

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I got my first negative reputation vote for starting this thread.   

Bah! I just gave you a positive to help counteract it.

KM

James:

I can't imagine why you would get a negative, but then again...given what I have seen the last four weeks, I can't say I am surprised. But neither do i think it worthy of a positive...just a simple neutral.

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I can't help shaking my head when reading that people will dismiss what 98% of the scientists in the world believe by applying their own homemade desktop logic and argue things like

"People talked about Global Cooling in the 70's" - A few did. Now pretty much every scientist on the planet believes in Global warming.

"who says what the "correct" temperature of the earth should be? There is more diversity of life in a warm climate than a cold one" - that is somewhat of an ignorant comment, I'm sorry. The world is one ecological system with temperature differences supporting each other by huge currents (the gold current for instance which keeps us Europeans warm) which are fueled by the temperature differences of the cold north and the warm south. If everything gets warmer, it messes up these balances and we will see more deserts etc and very little can live in a desert.

etc etc.

The best thing we have to go for is what science tells us. We can't dismiss it because it doesn't suit us or we don't like to change our energy consuming life style. We're talking about going back to huts and firewood here. It's only little changes each and every one of us has to do and no matter what the causes of global warming are, it WILL help our environment.

Mikkel:

From a scientific viewpoint, gloibal warming is ANYTHING but a done deal. Let alone to be able pinpoint its cause and point fingers at man, or specific actions that man has taken. Let's take just one piece of information 1000 years ago there were a few 10s of millions people on the planet. Today there are 7 BILLION, or as Carl Sagan would say billions and billions, the prime culprit that everyone likes to point to is CO2. Well I guess we had all better either quit breathing, or get real good at holding our breath...we exhale...CO2.

This could very easily be a meteorological cycle, not unlike the one that led to fears of a coming Ice Age. Such cycles exist, short term and long term. My position is that our planet is whole lot bigger and more powerful than we will ever be, it has the ability to repair itself in the face of the worst potential damage man could do to it. So our job is to look at what we are doing and if possible take whatever steps are viable and economically feasible to mitigate those effects. But far more importantly than that to learn how to adapt and survive. A case can be made that we have overpopulated the planet to the point that it cannot possibly support all of us, or will reach that point soon, would your answer be to begin mass slaughter of each other to get the population down...I doubt it and it certainly wouldn't be mine...tempting maybe.

Have I heard a single scientist mention the effects, MASSIVE, of the concrete jungle on our planets ecosphere...I don't think so. But if Al Gore latches onto it we will be ripping up all the concrete and asphalt and returning to dirt roads.

I am also intrigued by astronomical data that indicates that Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are undergoing similar warming at the present time...if that is true...how did we cause it.<scratching head>

My core belief is one that I have held for many many years despite any and everything. It is man's destiny to explore from the depths of oceans to the deepest reaches of outer space. I think we need to be getting down to it and get OFF this planet and stop playing around. While trying to conserve our resources. Like I said to get into this in all the detail that I can politically, economically, scientifically or any way you wish, would require far more than I am willing to type and a whole lot more than anyone is interested in reading.

People have marched and held up placards saying Repent the end is nigh since tim immemorial. ONE day they WILL be right, is tomorrow...I don't know, I have a lot of knowledge, but I don't have the wisdom to be able to provide a definitive answer yea or nay, nor does anyone else, For all we know the world ends with the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012...if it does all these silly discussions and concerns are academic. Keep in mind that the planet is bigger and more powerful than we will ever be, and if whatever God you choose to have faith in decides it's over....guess what...it will be over and we won't have a single thing to say about it.

Ahhh the old chicken or the egg conundrum.        

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There are those who do not dispute the existence of global warming, but argue it is the result of a cycle of solar activity, e.g. in The Great Global Warming Swindle.
This was broadcasted some months ago on Dutch TV followed by a panel discussion with scientists from both camps. Very interesting!

As far as I know, meanwhile both this film and An Inconvenient Truth have been demonstrated to deal with the evidence in a very selective way.

The British Royal Society however puts itself firmly in the Al Gore camp.