Quoting falcon2099:

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I believe the whole "make a single back-up of any disk for the purpose OF back-ups" does NOT apply to DVDs. 

I think it is still ILLEGAL to bypass/circumvent/disable the encryption on DVDs which would allow you to copy them.

Therefore, to do so IS piracy.

It is the user's fair use right to make a backup of any media they own for their own personal use.

This is at odds with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which makes it illegal to bypass the securities used by such media.

This needs reconciled. I personally believe that if you don't side with the consumer's rights, then you are basically anti-consumer. Not only that, but America is a consumerist society, and taking away consumer's rights is not only anti-consumer, but anti-American.

Quoting falcon2099:

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Quoting pauls42:

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Quoting P_Makepeace:

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Legaly I'm allowed to make a single back-up of any disk for the purpose OF back-ups.

as the 'other' Peter said. This is totally illegal.

I believe it IS legal to make 1 backup of your software CDs & DVDs though.

It depends on where you live; I believe the US has a 'fair use' policy in its copyright legislation which allows a backup copy. The UK (for example) implemented the Euro directive without such a clause so it is illegal, but germany (another example) implemented it differently so it is legal there.

Quoting falcon2099:

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I believe the whole "make a single back-up of any disk for the purpose OF back-ups" does NOT apply to DVDs. 

I think it is still ILLEGAL to bypass/circumvent/disable the encryption on DVDs which would allow you to copy them.

Therefore, to do so IS piracy.

Not that I really care anymore... but c'mon. 
for my comment (which, BTW is true and accurate)??  Someone obviously got up on the wrong side of the bed. 

The red-arrow bandit with the itchy trigger finger is at it again.

Grendell:

The issue is not the baxking up of the disc, that is clearly allowed by the Supreme Court's Ruling years ago. I don't believe that includes essentially duplicating the packaging as well...that becomes very questionable and I don't believe would be covered under the court's ruling or the Millenium Act. That WOULD be essentially piracy, and for the court or the allow it would give a defense to real pirates which would make it much more difficult to prosecute them.

@ Falcon:

While it is theoretically legal to create a backup a backup of any DVD that you own. The film industry is also busily trying to make that process as difficult as they possibly can in order to protect their own rights and consumerist society or no, they have as much right to protect their interests as the consumre does to buy their products. Remember< grendell, that the solution is simple based on your view of the consumerist society, the film industry simply says if we cannot protect our interests and financial investments we will no longer release anything to any form of media purchasable by the consumer. It's a tricky balancing act, but not one that the consumer can control,very much.

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Thank you all for ALL of the comments made.
The issue HAS been resolved. I got the covers AND spines I needed, and my DVDs and music in my draws and racks near my entertainment unit looks and IS professional looking. That’s all I wanted; to look at the spines and choose what I wanted to hear, see, install, play, etc. Mission accomplished because of a few of you. Thank you.

As I said, I invite any Pirate Police to come to my home and attempt to arrest me for making my collections appear complete.
It isn't like I have commercial printers, CD/DVD printers, or anything that would appear that I am mass producing titles for the purpose of distribution for money OR any other monetary source. My scanners are HP flatbed, Epson All-In-One, and another HP Flatbed with higher resolutions. These suffice for my other LEGAL, not media based (CD/DVD/etc.), business.

You can all argue this point till the cows come home. Whether you think it is legal to keep a copy as a back-up or not, IT IS. Regardless of cover or not. The proof is in the location, in my opinion. Is it set up for mass production? OR is it set up for a simple, single reproduction of a cover to make a library look complete and "cohesive", or any other word you choose.
Personally, I brought up this subject; my issue was resolved, and I hate to see the squabble continue.
If you plan on mass producing titles to profit, you are in violation of the law, IN ANY COUNTRY. If you simply want to complete your library in a manner that makes it look presentable, then don't worry about it. I'm sure you won't have an issue with anyone.... except in this forum. ;-)

Let this die please. Although somewhat constructive, I don't think this forum was meant to go so far off the topic where arguments are born and won't let die. I accomplished what I needed to accomplish. I'm happy. You should be happy for me... that I was able to come to this forum and resolve an issue that was/is completely harmless and painless.

Thank you all. ALL input was appreciated and ALL points of view were taken into consideration. I think enough information has been put forth to support all sides..... although I still stick to the point that what I accomplished was not wrong.

Have a wonderful week, and thank you again, to those who simply answered the question, and to those that made me aware of things that may be true or not. Either way, IT WAS good reading, but I think ALL points were covered thus far.

Good night.



Equality is a myth. What we strive for is acceptance.
CAH II 1965 – 20??

Quoting falcon2099:

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I believe the whole "make a single back-up of any disk for the purpose OF back-ups" does NOT apply to DVDs. 

I think it is still ILLEGAL to bypass/circumvent/disable the encryption on DVDs which would allow you to copy them.

Therefore, to do so IS piracy.

At least in Europe we differentiate between piracy, which involves income out of copying and falls under criminal law, and copying on the other hand, which is for private concerns and only affects civil right between the consumer and the right holder.

But as said elsewhere, the thin red line is drawn by each single nation for itself and therefore not consistent accross Europe...

Regards, AA

BTW: The antipiracy trailers opening a DVD mix up these items and the corresponding penalties too...

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Here is an example of a DVD cover:

I own a DVD thats case was chewed by my dog (the DVD was out of the case)... It was "Craddle 2: The Grave". I own the original DVD, but the case and the paper linning was destroyed. I received a CD/DVD from AOL, and threw away the CD since AOL SUCKS!, (easy there, AOL ISN'T the topic). Now I have a case that I can use for "The Craddle 2: The Grave", BUT I have no cover. Wouldn't it be nice if I could find the cover, print it out and use it as necessary?

I'm not concerned about making back-ups of DVDs as much as CDs (any type, PC games, music, PC software, etc). DVDs are hard to copy and I don't usually try to often anymore (the issue now is finding the xtra cases. BUT in the example above, why not print a copy of the cover? Any other ideas to get the covers, other than stealing them from BlockBuster, which in my area is renting them with the original covers inserted? Not my style.

As far as a scanner... I have three. It is a pain in the ass to go through the scanning process rather than just downloading the image and printing it.

anything and eveerythning is available thru a google search...