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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: ... but it will NEVER become what YOU want it to be ...
I wanted FRANCOIS=François, and Gerri said FRANCOIS=François I wanted no hyphens in middle of words, and Ken said no hyphens in the middle of words. Fight for reason is a hard labour against obscurantism, but things will improve as there are intelligent people everywhere... I think you would have been among people who condemned Galileo... PS. Sorry to have slightly modified your post, I corrected the typo... | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
I wanted FRANCOIS=François, and Gerri said FRANCOIS=François I wanted no hyphens in middle of words, and Ken said no hyphens in the middle of words. Keep on dreaming, this is not what Gerri says! Quoting Gerri Cole: Quote: You should not give out a NO vote if it does not follow the nationality rules unless it is undoing where someone has already corrected it. If you dont know any better, then do what you know. If people want to vote No to that, I would expect a detailed explanation why and a subsequent contribution to make the correct changes.
Some people are interpretting it a little too literally. My clarification was to allow people the freedom to use the nationality rules if they know them. If they don't, just making capital letters small is still perfectly acceptable.
-Gerri red color be me to draw your attention | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Well done, giga.
BTW, yves if you recall on the hypens in the middle of words, I took absolutely no position whatsoever. I am therefore very comfortable with what Ken said. I can't figure out why it would be done TODAY, years ago, it had a purpose but today it would seem to me be unnecessary. Until someone posted a copy of a back cover with a hypenated word, I had not seen it any Region 1 title. It seems to be a rarity which is fine by me. I suppose there is a possible explanation for the appearance of a hyphenated, but it is a theory only so I will keep it to myself.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gerri Cole: Quote: ... was to allow people the freedom to use the nationality rules if they know them... As I know french rules, I'm allowed to have FRANCOIS=François for a french actor... I wanted no more, no less | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Never mind, it's a waste of time.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: As I know french rules, I'm allowed to have FRANCOIS=François for a french actor...
I wanted no more, no less Yes you can, you have more then you asked for: Quoting Gerri Cole: Quote: ... If people want to vote No to that, I would expect a detailed explanation why and a subsequent contribution to make the correct changes. | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,640 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: I agree with Skip's sentiment. Here we have Runmovies trying to contribute good profiles, based on the rules, and he is getting nothing but grief. Rather than blaming the people who are giving him grief, you want to blame the system. If he, with his self professed bad english, can follow the rules, why can't the others? Thank you Unicus that's right, this are not always easy to understanding, and this is normal since they are some rules not in accordance with our country, that doesn’t mean that the rule most not be follow, just to be adapted, e.g.: for the rating accord parental that’s meant in English ( Parental Guidance or something like that) but some peoples writing All, I’m sorry but for me that’s mean that this kind of movies are not for All, then I write NC, There are no other field to write something other. Of course this are a question of interpretation, but AP or PG are for me exactly the same. And I will answer to some people who’s ask me why I’m changing my mind about skip, this are very simple, I know Skip from about 8 years now, and I am not the kind of guy who’s stay angry all is life, I explain the misunderstanding about an e-mail I receive from a friend of mine, just because it missing two letter who’s making a word. I’m not understand at the first time all the subtlety about the English, I must read them back again, and again, and there where no matter for what's I’m writing this post about skip. And since everybody read this post, in my mind this are also correct that everyone know that my post where no reason to be write, that’s why I give him my apologies. I am not in accordance with skip at anytime, I don’t like that Skip talking about my friends like Surfer or Cyrille, and he know that, the opinion of everybody must be taken with respect, and of course they can be the subject of discussion, but they must never finish as a war, I’m really don’t understand why Skip and Surfeur are not friend, they talking both perfectly English, by this way no misunderstanding! But i will not going out the subject of this post. The subject are the Red point about a NO Votes. But I will maybe repeat again, A vote NO, must not be subject of reputation feed back. Except if someone are insulting or not polite, that’s exactly the same in live, if you vote NO for your or our government do you think you will receive a red point on your papers, I don’t think so. Reputation is a word very important and are subject to many interpretation. If we cannot changing the rule votes, why not changing this word reputation. For example FAIR-PLAY. But I think this could be a subject to discuss. Skip, Please do not use some words , like anarchist etc… this are not very kind, This is a forum, and we are all friends we must given example! Do you know that on google all the message from the forum can be find. | | | My collection |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Jean:
The only issue I have with Surfeur is that he wants it his way and NOT the Profiler way. And from what I gather he is actively encouraging others. I do indeed consider him a friend and wish him no ill will, just as I consider Cyrille, cmaurice , Touti and others friends as well. As I said from what i can see there is MAJOR work to be on the French portion of the database...in ALL areas. It's up to Surfeur, I am ready when he is.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,715 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: La France, that's a hard one to contribute and as pictures says more than words:
In short this is a rental only dvd. He/She thinks it is the wrong cover and probably can contributed a cover in the weekend. Weekend passed and no corrected cover and my contribution got declined. Lucky for me this did not result in a from that voter As seldom as I do this, I have to agree Skip. From my point of view this problem raises out of some tendencies to anarchy which the french community forced to be accepted. We don't have this problem with german contributions, because we document in english. - Therefore the screeners can do their work - and they do it well! - and get crontributions accepted although there are "No-Votes" on them... If the german contributers have differences about a contribution, the points of view are explained with private mails - often in german - and then if there is no consensus on the topic, the decision is left to the screeners, which works as long as the documentation ist held in english... Regards, AA | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,715 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: Quoting surfeur51:
Quote: As I know french rules, I'm allowed to have FRANCOIS=François for a french actor...
I wanted no more, no less Yes you can, you have more then you asked for:
Quoting Gerri Cole:
Quote: ... If people want to vote No to that, I would expect a detailed explanation why and a subsequent contribution to make the correct changes.
This does only work if all the documentation and the votings are held in english. As long as a community allows the voting comments to be french, the screeners have lost any possibility to verify the comments and therefore the contribution. This could only be solved, if the french community stands back and forbids french the french language in the contriibution and voting process. Regards, AA | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| Registered: March 10, 2007 | Posts: 4,282 |
| Posted: | | | | We've added another tool for our reputation monitoring system that will help us monitor reputation feedback on contribution votes more closely.
Please remember that negative feedback based on the percieved accuracy of the vote is not valid and will be removed. Further votes of this kind will be reversed, directly affecting the reputation score of the submitter. Our goal is to ensure that users may freely cast votes without concern for the impact to their reputation score.
Inaccurate votes are already handled by our contribution evaluation system. The contribution evaluation system learns based on prior contributions and votes. Votes cast by users who routinely vote inaccurately or against the contribution rules are given less weight than those by users who vote accurately. | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,640 |
| Posted: | | | | Many thanks to Ken who's accept to giving us some new information’s, I Think that’s reputation in English mean maybe something other than in the French country, I am very sorry if there are misunderstood. But I have two friend who’s are lawyer, and I ask her what are exactly a reputation, there answer, are clear , a reputation are for , the thief, the liar, the killer, and are written on your official paper. That’s are the reason because I think this word will not said exactly the same in English and French. I don’t want to create any problem maybe my English are no good , but I’m still writing is this language, I think I'm doing my best.
A fair-play are a completely different word, that’s mean your not agree with someone but you given him information to help him, that are a fair-play, but in the case he don’t or he would not accept your help that’s from his part a non Fair-play.
I all time agree the rules and I respect them, they are easy to understend them in english, The point where only for a voting NO and Of course with reason. There are no matter to given a bad point on reputation if you are voting NO. | | | My collection | | | Last edited: by Runmovies |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,640 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote:
This could only be solved, if the french community stands back and forbids french the french language in the contriibution and voting process.
Regards, AA I'm sorry i'm not agree with you idéa, there are a litlle discriminative, When a contribution are from the french country I think that's correct that the people talking in her language, I can tell you that many french contributors writing in english, Do you really see wath you writting " Forbids the french Language" , Why ? Do you know that the french language are the most difficult in the world, Do you know that French take his roots from the Latin and greek. Invelos are the most beautifull soft for the collector, and they where translate by the helps of friends and I'm working also a little to this translation, Surfer, Cyrille, Werner, jean and also others. Yes whe are French , O.K . Do you make an effort to writing in french, I think not, but we yes, with for some and that's my case i make the best i can to writen in english. Of course you can laugh from my bad English. That's will not said than i will never writing anymore, even with my very bad english. | | | My collection |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,029 |
| Posted: | | | | Voting comments are intended for both the contributor and the screeners, therefore they should be in English just like the contribution notes. | | | Matthias |
| Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Ken: Thanks for making the Rep system even better! Runmovies: The Screeners need to understand the Notes, that's why they should be written in English, I should think. But you can add a French translation for the French users who don't understand English, if you want. Quoting Runmovies: Quote: I buy many DVD directly from the U.S but when I download the profile I buy from the state this problem doesn’t exist. There are always complete.
Also consider there are many more contributors for US (and UK) profiles than for any other locality. Quoting Surfeur51: Quote: Yes, I'm an anarchist, I advocate correcting spelling mistakes....
Robespierre wanted to correct some mistakes too! (just kidding!) Quoting Skipnet50: Quote: You attack the system for absolutely noother reason than you want it done your WAY, You repeatedly criticized some aspects of the "system" you don't agree with, as well, a few examples come to mind: the "slip case/cover" issue, and the possibility to enter French "FRANCOIS" as "François". Surfeur expresses his own views, you express yours, be happy! | | | -- Enry | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | @Runmovies I think the best way to describe the english word "reputation" is "social standing". If you have a high or good reputation then you are considered responsible and trustworthy. A bad or low reputation means people are not going to trust you. I'm afraid I don't know how much this differs to the french interpretation. And I like EnryWiki's idea of dual-language contribution notes, so both the voters and the screeners can understand them. And remember if someone votes "no" on a submission and puts a reason in french, you can always edit your notes to include a translation and give your reason why it's not a valid vote. |
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