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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | Yes it is OEM, he's claiming it can be installed on any computer. I had OEM for Fujitsu-Siemens and Acer computers and these would only install on their brands (bios check or something simular).
The OEM version does not allow for user support via Microsoft. You generally would contact your original manufacturer (hence the Original Equipment Manufacturer designation) for any support issues. If you are comfortable with computers in general and Windows in particular and don't require MS support, this is a much cheaper alternative to the retail box version.
Also of consideration, my understanding is that the license does not allow for transfer of this product to other computers, even if you uninstall from the original.(these are the main difference between Full and OEM) | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: Also of consideration, my understanding is that the license does not allow for transfer of this product to other computers, even if you uninstall from the original.(these are the main difference between Full and OEM) Yea OEM is my second choice. I dont need and never have needed any tech support from MS. The problem with OEM is that you need to reregister everytime you change a piece of hardware, i think you can do that 3 times, afterwhich you cant install it anymore. I bought my mother a OEM licence and the store said that i can still install it after the 3 times but i have to call microsoft and explane why i need to install it again or something like that. I need 1 OEM licence for a Acer laptop too, too bad he isnt selling them for Acer computers. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I will research this for you, whispering. If I understand what is going on it sounds like a dealer is selling OEM versions of Windows XP for cheap. This is common and under US law any number of dealers get into serious trouble with software providers, including Microsoft, as this is considered piracy. I don't about the law in your country or how US law or international copyright treaties might impact this., but I'll try and find out for you.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 25, 2007 | Posts: 41 |
| Posted: | | | | Skip, at least in Germany it is perfectly legal to sell OEM or System builder versions w/o any hardware. It's not even a grey area, it's 100 percent legal. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Interesting, ks
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 374 |
| Posted: | | | | Perfectly legal here as well |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting kschmit2: Quote: Skip, at least in Germany it is perfectly legal to sell OEM or System builder versions w/o any hardware. It's not even a grey area, it's 100 percent legal. It's legal at least throughout the EC. MS license restrictions were cancelled by the European Court some years ago. @ whispering: AFAIK he doesn't run off with your money , bought some XP licenses for my customers there myself they were always delivered within two days after payment. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote: @ whispering: AFAIK he doesn't run off with your money , bought some XP licenses for my customers there myself they were always delivered within two days after payment. The problems: OEMWill it install & run on ACER | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: Quoting goblinsdoitall:
Quote: @ whispering: AFAIK he doesn't run off with your money , bought some XP licenses for my customers there myself they were always delivered within two days after payment. The problems: OEMWill it install & run on ACER I'm running a DELL-OEM on an ACER with the ACER key (was necessary, because ACER doesn't deliver OS-CDs anymore just offers complete backups of the installed programs). For my customers I have several combinations of mostly self-designed PCs and OEM-versions from MEDION, HP, DELL etc. They all installed and activated without problems. For activation you have to reenter the license-key though. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | So whispering should be safe as long the hardware is not updated to often | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: So whispering should be safe as long the hardware is not updated to often Just as with any other XP installation! 3 Shots are free after the fourth you have to reactivate, which is not problematical at all and works fine via automatic activation. I had this recently due to a major system rebuilt (Athlon XP 3200+ system rode off to it's ancestors), which then was upgraded with new mainboard, processor, RAM, graphics-card and HDD (to which the old HDD was copied) it all runs fine now. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote: was necessary, because ACER doesn't deliver OS-CDs anymore just offers complete backups of the installed programs Exactly my problem too with my Acer laptop. Gonna order 2 XP's from there, and see what happens. Just need to find someone that speaks German first, shouldnt be too hard though... |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote: Quoting goblinsdoitall:
Quote: was necessary, because ACER doesn't deliver OS-CDs anymore just offers complete backups of the installed programs
Exactly my problem too with my Acer laptop. Gonna order 2 XP's from there, and see what happens. Just need to find someone that speaks German first, shouldnt be too hard though... Wait a moment, if I get you right, you have a valid license key? (it should be printed to a MS-sticker on the bottom of your laptop). If this is correct you'd possibly only need the CD not the license. Check first if you have a license for the "Home-Edition" or the "Professional-Edition". If you need someone that speaks German, I think I know someone (kahless for example ) If you need help with contacting the trader send me a PM. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | ^ I have a valid licence key for the laptop. In order to make the key work i would have to find that exact copy of Win XP Home (finnish version) for it to work (or so i've been told). Acer can send me a back up that has all the crap preinstalled (horribly to say the least), but i made that exact same backup when i bought the computer. But i want a clean install. So yea i have a valid licence key for my computer and i have to still buy one to it. I just love multinational corporations. | | | Last edited: by whispering |
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Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,033 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm not sure about the language version issue, but I know there is no difference between OEM Dell and OEM Acer. The difference you will see is with the product code and the install disc. basically there are three types of product codes, OEM, Retail, Corporate (think thats all of them). That type is 'coded' into the product code.
The discs (at least for XP) are also coded similarly. When you enter the key, the two types (the cd's type and the product code's type) must match. I found a site a while back that actually showed where on the disk the type was stored but can't refind it and didn't save it.
Now, providing the product codes and discs don't have a similar id system to mark the locality it should be fine using your OEM key with any discs as long as that disc is an OEM disc. You can probably do some google searching to see if the locality is checked with the product key.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | ^ Thanks for the info, my mother has a Finnish OEM version so i can check it with that one. If it works i'll only need one XP :D |
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