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NRA - Monumental Victory
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Nice; never had the chance myself, living in the UK.
Of course, even though only for target shooting, they forced me to give up my .357 S&W 686, which I occasionally mounted a scope on, when the law changed here... <sarcasm>which I notice has hugely reduced the gun crime as it was stated it would</sarcasm>


Nods it made a massive difference didn't? All those robbers, gang shooters etc., all walked into the the local cop shop handed over their legally owned guns and promised to be good boys from now on

What Country has the pretty much highest ownership on guns but one of the lowest crime rates? Switzerland 

Tho in the UK I've heard it said it is less about safely and more about the government scared to death about what might happen to them and our 'betters' if Joe Public had access to them generally, look what happened to the King the last time that happened

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Its illegal to hunt with a pistol here, its not powerful enough. Here you can only use the pistol as the "finish him" weapon if the first shot didnt kill the animal, or if the animal is in a trap. Other then that pistols can only be used for "sports" shooting.


My Blackhawk is plenty powerful enough...a 240 grain semi-jacketed softnose is quite suitable for up to black bear, although I've heard stories of even bigger game being bagged by the .44 mag. When hunting deer with my Remington 700 I carry my 9mm Beretta 92FS just in case I need to finish him off...haven't needed to yet.

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What i find strange about US gun laws (from my point of view), is that theres the gun crazy ones that want to walk with a pistol in their holster at all times (maby a small exaggaration ), and then theres the ones that want to ban all weapons. I hear very little "middle ground" stuff coming from there.


In all my years I have never seen any civilian in public walking around carrying a weapon in a holster with the exception of hunters enroute to a hunt and then the weapon is not loaded, which would be illegal here in California without a conceal-carry permit. I've never felt the urge to cowboy it.
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I would not be able to kill animals just for fun...


I've never killed an animal "just for fun" or out of spite. Any game I take is for personal consumption.
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It seems some of the US Citizens are gun crazy.
Police: Plant shooter kills 5 co-workers, then himself
It's so easy to pull a trigger, with all those guns around. Lucky us, you can't take those abroad on a plane!

Every day in America, 93 people die from gunshot wounds, and approximately 240 sustain gunshot injuries
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I would not be able to kill animals just for fun...


I've never killed an animal "just for fun" or out of spite. Any game I take is for personal consumption.


I understand 8ballMax! To be honest, if I had to bag the game myself to enjoy a steak, I would rather become a vegetarian! 
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It seems some of the US Citizens are gun crazy.
Police: Plant shooter kills 5 co-workers, then himself
It's so easy to pull a trigger, with all those guns around. Lucky us, you can't take those abroad on a plane!

Every day in America, 93 people die from gunshot wounds, and approximately 240 sustain gunshot injuries


Murder and manslaughter in the U.S.: 16,137 cases in 2004 (5.5 per 100,000 inhabitants). Percent change compared to 2003: -2.4

Murder and manslaughter (moord en doodslag) in Belgium: 959 cases in 2004 (9.1 per 100,000 inhabitants). Percent change compared to 2003: +11.12

Way to go .
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It certainly does look like the idealogical differences will come down to court appointments in this election cycle.  That's about the only area where either candidate strays from center...despite the rhetorical bunk being tossed around by the two campaigns.


You actually believe that Berak Obama is in the center. 

You need to do a little more research!
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It certainly does look like the idealogical differences will come down to court appointments in this election cycle.  That's about the only area where either candidate strays from center...despite the rhetorical bunk being tossed around by the two campaigns.


You actually believe that Berak Obama is in the center. 

You need to do a little more research!


Thanks for associating my Alias with Mr. Obama (Barack isn't it)      
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Nice; never had the chance myself, living in the UK.
Of course, even though only for target shooting, they forced me to give up my .357 S&W 686, which I occasionally mounted a scope on, when the law changed here... <sarcasm>which I notice has hugely reduced the gun crime as it was stated it would</sarcasm>

In all seriousness, there is very little evidence that any of the measures to ban all (or even some) firearms anywhere in the world has ever significantly reduced crime.  Yet despite this "inconvenient truth" politicians continue to try and disarm people.
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Murder and manslaughter in the U.S.: 16,137 cases in 2004 (5.5 per 100,000 inhabitants). Percent change compared to 2003: -2.4

Murder and manslaughter (moord en doodslag) in Belgium: 959 cases in 2004 (9.1 per 100,000 inhabitants). Percent change compared to 2003: +11.12

Way to go .

Statistics prove anything. Those Belgium numbers include attempts
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(voltooide (accomplished) misdrijven (crimes) en (and) pogingen (attempt))

in 2003 we had a population of 10,355,844 and 871 Murder and manslaughter crimes, accomplished and attempts. If you compare these to:
in 2003 a population of 2,898,374 (1/3±) and 598 (2/3±) murder cases, that tells a whole other story.
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Washington D. C., the focus of the particular brouhaha, has among the highest murder rates per capita in the entire country and also the MOST restrictive gun laws in effect since 1976. Interestingly enough DC murder rate was far lower prior to the 1976 law. N There are limits on our Constitutional Right to bear arms,  I should not be able buy an M-1 Abrams (though it might be fun)  , man could I clear out traffic with one or go over it. But by the same token, you have no right to show up in my house, for any reason, let alone criminal, without being challenged. If you should show up in my house with criminal intent and I am present you are in very serious trouble.

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If you should show up in my house with criminal intent and I am present you are in very serious trouble.

Skip's fine print: wanting to borrow a disc will be construed as "criminal intent". 
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ROFLMAO, the Blockbuster is two blocks away.

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In all seriousness, there is very little evidence that any of the measures to ban all (or even some) firearms anywhere in the world has ever significantly reduced crime.  Yet despite this "inconvenient truth" politicians continue to try and disarm people.


TBH i think our policy is good. Trigger locks on guns or locked gun cabinets for all firearms (meaning every gun has to be under a lock). And carrying a gun in public needs special permit (which unless youre a police officer is hard to get). Pretty much prevents most wrong doers and hunters can continue to hunt. We have more guns per capita compared to US, so i do understand the need for firearms.
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People who wish to own guns for criminal purposes will always get the gun.  If you remove something from the open market when there is a need for it, it'll resurface on the Black Market.

Banning guns to reduce crime will never work.
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In all seriousness, there is very little evidence that any of the measures to ban all (or even some) firearms anywhere in the world has ever significantly reduced crime.  Yet despite this "inconvenient truth" politicians continue to try and disarm people.


TBH i think our policy is good. Trigger locks on guns or locked gun cabinets for all firearms (meaning every gun has to be under a lock). And carrying a gun in public needs special permit (which unless youre a police officer is hard to get). Pretty much prevents most wrong doers and hunters can continue to hunt. We have more guns per capita compared to US, so i do understand the need for firearms.


The laws are the same here in the US...trigger or cable locks in approved lock boxes when the firearm is in a home where children are present. All my guns are locked in a gun safe when not in use or at home. When at home I keep my SIG Pro SP2022 .40 S&W in the nightstand next to my bed.
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