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Its offical Disney Has Destroyed Marvel Comics |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Jericko1: Quote:
I don't mean to insult anyone, but Marvel has had a great formula for a long time. There characters are more like real people. There are certain characters that will simply never fit into this mold like The Punisher, Wolvrine, and The X-Men. I wouldn't call the last decade, or so, a long time. Especially considering that Marvel is turning 71 this year. As I said, different tastes for different people. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: October 19, 2008 | | Posts: 409 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Jericko1:
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I don't mean to insult anyone, but Marvel has had a great formula for a long time. There characters are more like real people. There are certain characters that will simply never fit into this mold like The Punisher, Wolvrine, and The X-Men.
I wouldn't call the last decade, or so, a long time. Especially considering that Marvel is turning 71 this year. As I said, different tastes for different people. Marvel has been contoversal since the 1960's. It seems like you have not followed comics for a while. Marvel is very grit. The have been breaking the blood code since the 80's. They have been darker in the last decade, but differant title have been marketed to differant audiances. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Jericko1: Quote:
Marvel has been contoversal since the 1960's. It seems like you have not followed comics for a while. Marvel is very grit. The have been breaking the blood code since the 80's. They have been darker in the last decade, but differant title have been marketed to differant audiances. I started reading Marvel and DC in the late '60s. I stopped reading in the late '80s, early '90s. I have never liked the dark story lines so returning to their roots, in my opinion, is a good choice. You don't have to agree, but that is my opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | Who knows if this was actually Disney's doing? Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
The first thing they did, however, was not bring back Captain America.
Captain America: Reborn #6 is just coming out. Put that in perspective, that's six months of the comic being published. That brings us back to September, when the FIRST issue was published. Let's not give the writers the benefit of the doubt and say they only had his revival planned for... mmmm... three months before the first issue was published (considering Bryan Hitch is penciling it, that's a totally unrealistic amount of time... the guy is painfully slow with his work... so we're probably looking more along the lines of six months lead-up time to the first issue being published). That brings us to June (three months does, not six months).
Disney buys Marvel in August, two full months after Captain America's revival is put into the works (again, this is all such a loose timeline it's ridiculous), and that's your proof that Disney is about to ruin Marvel? Thin argument. It's obvious that Brubaker has been planning this pretty much from the beginning. We haven't actually seen ANYTHING that shows that Disney is turning Marvel back into kiddie fair (really... how long was New Avengers going to last? As with all things Marvel [ex: Thor #600, Hulk #600, Spider-Man #600 etc.] everything goes back to a similar place to where it was before things were changed).
And you want to know what? It's time for a change. Just because Captain America, Iron Man and Thor are going to be in The Avengers again doesn't mean they're not going to get the ever loving shiitake mushroom kicked out of them on a monthly basis. It doesn't mean the bad guys aren't going to win sometimes. That people will die. That violence will ensue. That worlds will die (something that's been happening since the 60's in Marvel comics, LONG before they went darker).
Wait before you judge. Who knows. You might like what's coming. | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. | | | | Last edited: by Merrik |
| | Registered: October 19, 2008 | | Posts: 409 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Jericko1:
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Marvel has been contoversal since the 1960's. It seems like you have not followed comics for a while. Marvel is very grit. The have been breaking the blood code since the 80's. They have been darker in the last decade, but differant title have been marketed to differant audiances.
I started reading Marvel and DC in the late '60s. I stopped reading in the late '80s, early '90s. I have never liked the dark story lines so returning to their roots, in my opinion, is a good choice. You don't have to agree, but that is my opinion. Ah, I see what you mean, correct me if I am wrong you don't mind the characters being more human kind of like the sixties and seventies and eighties. You generaly don't like the darker stories of the nintes. I wish I was around in the sixties ti get those comicss. Do you still have any? Im sory if I came of as insulting, but the problem with the internet is that you can't hear peoples tones. |
| | Registered: October 19, 2008 | | Posts: 409 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
Who knows if this was actually Disney's doing? Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
The first thing they did, however, was not bring back Captain America.
Captain America: Reborn #6 is just coming out. Put that in perspective, that's six months of the comic being published. That brings us back to September, when the FIRST issue was published. Let's not give the writers the benefit of the doubt and say they only had his revival planned for... mmmm... three months before the first issue was published (considering Bryan Hitch is penciling it, that's a totally unrealistic amount of time... the guy is painfully slow with his work... so we're probably looking more along the lines of six months lead-up time to the first issue being published). That brings us to June (three months does, not six months).
Im gald that Cap is coming back, he is my fasvorite Marvel hero and Ultimate Captain America is not the same thing, I don't care what anybody says. I am more upset that the darker storylines are going away. I loved Civil War and hoped Disney would make a movie. I have hated the Avengers since they disassembled and made it an aal star like Justice league.
Disney buys Marvel in August, two full months after Captain America's revival is put into the works (again, this is all such a loose timeline it's ridiculous), and that's your proof that Disney is about to ruin Marvel? Thin argument. It's obvious that Brubaker has been planning this pretty much from the beginning. We haven't actually seen ANYTHING that shows that Disney is turning Marvel back into kiddie fair (really... how long was New Avengers going to last? As with all things Marvel [ex: Thor #600, Hulk #600, Spider-Man #600 etc.] everything goes back to a similar place to where it was before things were changed).
And you want to know what? It's time for a change. Just because Captain America, Iron Man and Thor are going to be in The Avengers again doesn't mean they're not going to get the ever loving shiitake mushroom kicked out of them on a monthly basis. It doesn't mean the bad guys aren't going to win sometimes. That people will die. That violence will ensue. That worlds will die (something that's been happening since the 60's in Marvel comics, LONG before they went darker).
Wait before you judge. Who knows. You might like what's coming. |
| | Registered: October 19, 2008 | | Posts: 409 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have nothing aginst them bringing back Captain America, or the origional Avengers. He is my favorite Marvle character, as the Avengers are my favorite team. I hate the Mighty Avengers, New Avenger and so on. The New Avengers tried to copy The Justice League and make it an all star team, which works in DC but not Marvel. My problem is with them dumming down the storylines. Civil War was the best comic event in 20 years. This will not hurt some characters as much as others, like The X-Men Wolvierine, and The Punisher. Don't forget about the Ultimate marvel line. Whay can't they just market the two universies to differant people. |
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