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| Registered: May 8, 2007 |  Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting OldMan56: Quote:
I have no problem with the striped down disc used for rentals. I do have a problem when the try to resell that same striped down disc for the same price as a used full disc. They need to label the package with that information. And they never do. Those discs plague the marketplace. If the disc has a stripped down rental version, you can forget purchasing used via the net unless it's clearly marked "this is the retail disc, not the stripped rental version." | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Grendell:
Your example is a little off as, in the context of this thread, you're spending more to get more. It's no different than buying a car...when you pay the low end price, you get the stripped down model, when you pay the premium price, you get all the bells and whistles.
What I would consider a low blow from the studios is if, for $1 at RedBox, you could get the exact same product I have to spend $20 on. Bottom line, a consumer who pays less should expect to get less. If you want the extras, you have to pay for them.
Edit: I see everybody seems to be on the same page here. And that's just pathetic. These studios make hundreds of millions of dollars, yet they feel the need to punish consumers who don't pay them even more money. And YOUR analogy is flawed, as with the rental I don't get to keep the disc. If I rent instead of buy a fully loaded Cadillac, and I go to pick it up and find that all extra features are missing, and I am told, "You can't get those features on the rental, you can only buy to get those," how can you expect me to be happy about that? MY analogy was not really an analogy; I was only trying to convey how dumbfounded I am that people actually are HAPPY about getting less when they rent. Are people THAT brainwashed by these insanely rich and profitable companies that they actually WANT to be abused and taken advantage of by them? More and more I am seeing people actually being happy about losing their rights, and their power as consumers. I will never stop being utterly dumbfounded by this. (Unless you're all just trolling me?) | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | The idea is that the studios don't want a flood of former rental discs in the secondary market diluting the value of the retail release. Of course, they flood the secondary market anyway and mean increased vigilance is required. I won't mind so much if they were more clearly labeled. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Over the weekend we went for a day out to Lincoln and found a Blockbuster we didn't know existed. Between the 3 of us in our household we bought 15 Blu-ray discs from the previously owned section:
Season of the Witch
Edge of Darkness
Predators
The Final Destination
The Tourist
Tamara Drewe
Hereafter
Animals United 3D
Burlesque
Gladiator
My Soul to Take
The Proposal
Meagamind
Alpha & Omega
127 Hours
Of these 9 were ex-rentals. Of those only 2 were stripped of the extras. Everything else has the same extras as the retail versions.
I have found, with Blu-rays, that (in the UK at least) they seem to be retaining the extras a lot more than they used to with DVDs. |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | The used Blu-Ray that I saw at my local Blockbuster for $16.99 was Inception. Rental version, stripped of all bonus features. Current Amazon listing for full retail 2 disc edition: http://www.amazon.com/Inception-Two-Disc-Blu-ray-Leonardo-DiCaprio/dp/B002ZG981E$18.99If you have Amazon Prime, 2-day shipping is free. How is that fair to the customer in the local Blockbuster store who doesn't realize any of the above? What a rip off! | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 25 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sometimes I rent movies from Netflix just to watch the extras one time for movies I have already seen. The good is when Netflix offers the Bonus Disc as a separate rental. The bad is when they strip the extras from a single disc with no indication until you receive the movie-only disc.
-drjenkins | | | They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety.
--Benjamin Franklin |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 90 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have to say that I agree withe the OP, but I can also see where the studios are coming from. What is rediculous is that Blockbuster expects you to pay a almost new price for a lesser disc. $16.99 for a barebones Inception is crazy when you can get it brand new for 18.99. I also want to see the extended versions of movies that I haven't bought yet to see if I will like it enough to spend the extra cash for the "bells and whistles" version. | | | | The artist formerly known as TylerDurden_73 |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
How is that fair to the customer in the local Blockbuster store who doesn't realize any of the above? What a rip off! Since when does business have to be fair? AFAIK even Blockbuster doesn't force anyone to buy any of their used rental discs. So it's up to the customer to decide whether to accept or decline Blockbuster's offer. Blockbuster can demand any price they like for their products, it's a completely other problem to find the necessary customers who are willing to pay that price. And whenever I buy something and don't get myself some information on the current retail prices I can surely not blame the seller if he didn't inform me that I could have gotten the product cheaper if I had bought it somewhere else. A "Rip Off" for me has something to do with deception and this would only be true if Blockbuster would state that they sell more than they actually do. They don't do this, do they? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
And that's just pathetic. These studios make hundreds of millions of dollars, yet they feel the need to punish consumers who don't pay them even more money. When I rent, I don't feel punished that I didn't get all the extras. As I said, I don't expect that much for a buck. Quote:
And YOUR analogy is flawed, as with the rental I don't get to keep the disc. If I rent instead of buy a fully loaded Cadillac, and I go to pick it up and find that all extra features are missing, and I am told, "You can't get those features on the rental, you can only buy to get those," how can you expect me to be happy about that? I don't expect you to be anything. If you want to get upset that you don't get the top of the line model when you rent, that is your right. I, on the other hand, don't care. When I rent a car, it's because I need to get around. I don't need all the bells and whistles and, as long as I am getting what I believe is value for my money, I am happy. Quote:
MY analogy was not really an analogy; I was only trying to convey how dumbfounded I am that people actually are HAPPY about getting less when they rent. Are people THAT brainwashed by these insanely rich and profitable companies that they actually WANT to be abused and taken advantage of by them? So, because we don't agree with your opinion, we are brainwashed and want to be abused? Talk about trolling. If all you wanted was a bunch of people to agree with you, you probably shouldn't have posted. Quote:
More and more I am seeing people actually being happy about losing their rights, and their power as consumers. I will never stop being utterly dumbfounded by this. (Unless you're all just trolling me?) What rights or power have I lost? If a company doesn't offer me what I want, then I don't buy from them. When I rent a film for $1, I don't expect a lot of extras so I don't get upset. I am sorry if that doesn't fit your mold of how I should act, but that isn't my problem. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Like others, I'm happy that if I rent I wouldn't get the full set. I pay less to get less. I'm not sure why anyone would expect to get a expensive disc cheaply by renting - after all, it's so easy to duplicate discs that if the expensive discs were available for a few pounds then how could companies sell the same disc for more money?
This doesn't mean I'm brainwashed by any evil companies.. | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Pantheon: Quote:
Over the weekend we went for a day out to Lincoln and found a Blockbuster we didn't know existed. Between the 3 of us in our household we bought 15 Blu-ray discs from the previously owned section:
Season of the Witch
Edge of Darkness
Predators
The Final Destination
The Tourist
Tamara Drewe
Hereafter
Animals United 3D
Burlesque
Gladiator
My Soul to Take
The Proposal
Meagamind
Alpha & Omega
127 Hours
Of these 9 were ex-rentals. Of those only 2 were stripped of the extras. Everything else has the same extras as the retail versions.
I have found, with Blu-rays, that (in the UK at least) they seem to be retaining the extras a lot more than they used to with DVDs. All of the BD's I've rented from Redbox have been just like the retail versions. Granted, they've all been Sony titles, but that may just be a Sony preference. I was pleasantly surprised when I bought the BD/DVD combo of Adjustment Bureau that the DVD was NOT stripped of all the features. Anywho, I know that when I rent from Redbox/Netflix/Blockbuster, it's a crapshoot as to whether I get features or not. I'm just pleasantly surprised when they're included. | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! | | | | Last edited: by huskersports |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | My Inception is short the second disc, but not stripped of special features. Not sure what market it was aimed at. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
Quoting Jimmy S:
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I don't rent and I don't use netflix (and other crap service alike)... all the movie I own are buy new (except for some gifts).
Then why on earth did you post in this thread?  Maybe because you did attack the dvd label for no reason  As someone who had good relation with many label owners, I always jump when someone talk non-sense. Who care if those dvd flood the second hand market as you seem to say... no dvd label make one penny on those sale so why they would do a special favor for this market You got what you pay for it is simple like that... you want all the extra stuff buy new that's all. BTW I don't need no one to tell me where, what, and when to post... |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
I rarely watch any extras on discs i purchase. I'm interested in a quality film image and sound. If my rental costs are reduced because i get a film only version that's fine by me. I will be a happy consumer. Even if you miss BD-Live? | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | A BD that loads in under 5 minutes? Sold.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
miss BD-Live? Never thought id see these two words in the same sentence. |
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