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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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You don't need to understand it, that's the beauty of it. Red just means "newer". Blue means "doesn't exist on the other side".

If you like, I can show it to you via Skype.


I don't have Skype but thank you anyway.
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There is a little known feature of BulkEdit called "ScrapeGoat" which allows you to grab public profiles from any user's online, by scraping the HTML. Of course, you get no personal data this way.

Just FYI. I am testing it on your collection. I would be curious how many I can grab. It will probably run for several hours. I know you have a backup. This is just a fun exercise for me.

Update: I stopped the agonizingly slow process at about 7,000 profiles. But it does show that in a desperation scenario, there is a process (scraping UPCs from the web site HTML) that still beats typing in thousands of UPCs. Perhaps we should request Invelos to make a standalone recovery service available (small fee?) that could retrieve a database from the online, if all else fails, once a person provided credentials.
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However, I do not use the backup function from DVDP because it's just too time-consuming.


It only takes me about around 10 minutes or less to do a full backup, and that's with all images and headshots.

It did take forever on my older computer though.
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I do have backups - one on my old computer and one on the one that has to be fixed.

Reminder, as I said in my PM, your machine will very likely come back with the hard drive reformatted. They asked for the restore discs, right?

Don't say we didn't warn ya ...
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However, I do not use the backup function from DVDP because it's just too time-consuming.


It only takes me about around 10 minutes or less to do a full backup, and that's with all images and headshots.

It did take forever on my older computer though.


The catch is that for me it wouldn't be just the Backup time, but also the Restore time on the second computer.

Just out of curiosity I tested it this morning (i.e. your middle of the night ). I added my latest Blu-ray and then made a complete database repair, which means every file is touched and has to be sync'd.

Technical info: The database contains 4008 profiles. It's stored on an SSD drive. I generated the backup file on a secondary disc (SATA). The sync to the USB thumb drive is done via USB 2.0.

The synchronization to the thumb drive included 98 files (of which about 50 were new or updated headshot images) took 1m 16s.



After that, I just changed a few tags on my newest profile and synced it again to the USB drive. It took a mere 25s.



The creation of the backup file (which does not include the headshot images (not the kind that is embedded in that database itself but rather the ones in the headshots folder) took 4m 52s.

The restoration of the backup file into a new, empty database (i.e. what I'd have to do every time I wanted to sync these two not networked computers) took 11m 49s.


I'm not saying my solution is for everyone. If you just want to backup and store the backup file for data safety reasons, the backup option is OK.

But if you need to sync between two computers, using a file-based synchronization is a lot faster than backup/restore.
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Kathy,

I have to ask the question...if it's been answered, I didn't see it. When you enter new discs into your database, do you then reupload your collection to invelos? If you do not, then the online will only be to the point you last uploaded it. If, for example, you have entered 25 new discs in the your collection but have not uploaded to invelos, then those 25 would not be available for you to download from your online collection.

I'm grasping at straws for the answer why your online database does not include all your profiles.
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I uploaded my collection April 11th - 3 days before I my computer broke down.

Invelos support is working on fixing the problem - it seems they can get my collection back to April 4th.

I'll be happy with that - there's no way I want to figure out and add 2,000+ missing DVDs.
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I'm glad to hear you will be getting back to almost where you were. I hope you didn't enter too many new ones since 4/4.
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I uploaded my collection April 11th - 3 days before I my computer broke down.

Invelos support is working on fixing the problem - it seems they can get my collection back to April 4th.

I'll be happy with that - there's no way I want to figure out and add 2,000+ missing DVDs.

Edit: Ok, I think I see the problem: your info page claims you have 16,000+ profiles, yet there are only 14000+ listed in the actual web pages. So I think I get what you are talking about. Best of luck, I'm sure Invelos will do their best.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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My actual collection of 16,000+ is correct online.

I wanted to download those to my niece's computer - only 912 downloaded.

My old computer has 14,000+ in my local database. When I tried to download the rest, none were added.

I tried to download my online collection on either computer, it appeared as those things were working. But, after the program finished, nothing was actually added. All the numbers stayed the same.
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My actual collection of 16,000+ is correct online.

I wanted to download those to my niece's computer - only 912 downloaded.

My old computer has 14,000+ in my local database. When I tried to download the rest, none were added.

I tried to download my online collection on either computer, it appeared as those things were working. But, after the program finished, nothing was actually added. All the numbers stayed the same.

That corresponds to what I see in my scraping tool. A bit over 14,000 profiles. They must correspond to what you have on the old computer, and indeed those other 2,000 profiles are mysteriously not available in the public online. Are there 2,000 profiles blocked by your privacy rules? I'm sure that it couldn't be that simple ... because, then the public total wouldn't include them I think.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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We have a process running to assist Kathy at the moment. Please don't run any further scrapes against the website on her account as it will slow the process down due to concurrency.
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It seems to be a problem on invelos end.

I brought out my old computer and tried to download the missing titles from my online collection without success.

Remember I did a test on restore from the on-line db., here are the my results.
And comments at the time.

Posted: April 9, 2013 9:11 PM
Restore from online Db

I use WD 2T My Book, USB 3.0 ($69.95) to back up everything. It runs in the back ground.
I also backup and save every day to an external drive if I've made any changes to db.
To due total backup of my db is around 22GB. I don;t know exactly how long it takes but less than a TV episode I'm watching the another room.
We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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We have a process running to assist Kathy at the moment. Please don't run any further scrapes against the website on her account as it will slow the process down due to concurrency.

No problem, but just FYI in the future, my tool simply loads the HTML and caches the text after navigation in a "Document Completed" handler. That takes all of a few seconds. Then all the processing is done against the cached data on the PC, so there has been only minimal hit on the web site. Calling it "scraping" was probably a misnomer on my part, since the load is exactly the same as viewing the collection with a browser.

Just making it clear. I was never doing anything that put any kind of load on the web site. I am not that stupid or inconsiderate.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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My thanks to everyone for all their suggestions and help. I plan on implementing many of them...once I learn how to! 

Invelos support has spent a lot of time and energy addressing and fixing the problems of a single community member.

I would like to publicly thank Ken and invelos support. They went out of their way for me and I am very grateful.

Thank you.
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