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| Registered: June 15, 2012 |  Posts: 428 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hmm.. bugger.. so it's a marketing crock.
Guess we are going to have to wait to see real 4k releases.
I just want to see if my 4k equipment actually does what they claim :-) |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
While they do say it is an improvement in color, I still don't think it is worth the upgrade. Another marketing gimmick. BD standard doesn't support xvYCC colors. That's why in Ken's link above they say "Expanded color requires xvYCC-compatible TV and Blu-ray player". Theres nothing new in this technique. Several Blu-rays have already been scanned and mastered 4k and then downscaled to BD standards, new Bond releases for example. This "4k mastered" is nothing else than another annoying sticker to remove from covers  |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Parsec: Quote:
I just want to see if my 4k equipment actually does what they claim :-) What 4k equipment you have? |
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| Registered: June 15, 2012 | | Posts: 428 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
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I just want to see if my 4k equipment actually does what they claim :-)
What 4k equipment you have? Oppo, Denon. Don't have a 4k display yet, but been waiting for an excuse to go looking.... |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Parsec: Quote:
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I just want to see if my 4k equipment actually does what they claim :-)
What 4k equipment you have?
Oppo, Denon. Don't have a 4k display yet, but been waiting for an excuse to go looking.... If I understand correctly they both can upscale to 4k. If you have native 4k material they don't actually do anything  Although I think that your Oppo cannot even play native 4k material. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
While they do say it is an improvement in color, I still don't think it is worth the upgrade. And even there is the question: Is the color really better due to the 4k or better color-editing? Looking at the Ghostbuster's screen-shots I'm slightly underwhelmed. Had the 2009 BD-transfer been made with more care it most likely could have looked the same. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | But if it had been made with more care in 2009 they wouldn't be able to sell you the better transfer with even better color and even more detail 4 years later. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: October 30, 2008 | | Posts: 1,249 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
But if [Ghostbusters] had been made with more care in 2009 they wouldn't be able to sell you the better transfer with even better color and even more detail 4 years later. VHS, laserdisc, DVD, Blu-ray, online streaming, and now 4k. It's important for the companies to milk every popular movie as dry as they can!  | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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| Registered: June 15, 2012 | | Posts: 428 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
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I just want to see if my 4k equipment actually does what they claim :-)
What 4k equipment you have?
Oppo, Denon. Don't have a 4k display yet, but been waiting for an excuse to go looking....
If I understand correctly they both can upscale to 4k. If you have native 4k material they don't actually do anything Although I think that your Oppo cannot even play native 4k material. Hmm.. ok the info on 4k is limited because in reality, there's really been nothing much to test all these 4k claims - well that's what most reviewers etc say, and I tend to agree. However, the denon, even if it's 4k processing is not compatible still has 4k passthrough. Also the Oppo has a source direct option if it's 4k isn't compatible. So, I'd say even in the worst case scenario.. it would end up with the display doing the processing. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,646 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SpaceFreakMicha: Quote:
HighDefDigest reviewed some of them: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html If you right click on the images in the review (top is old, bottom is new) and open each in a new tab you can flip back and forth between tabs to compare the two. Seems like most of the differences come down to the specific transfer. The newer titles had previous releases from 4K transfers. It seems the only titles which may have at a 2K transfer for their original releases were Glory, Ghostbusters, and Spider-man. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,339 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
They are pretty much the equivalent to Blu-ray what SuperBit was to DVD. It's exactly this... | | | | -JoN |
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 |  Posts: 240 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ruineddaydreams: Quote:
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They are pretty much the equivalent to Blu-ray what SuperBit was to DVD.
It's exactly this... That's what I'm finding in my reading too. If the old release was bad, the 4k mastered version will likely be better. But your not likely to see much improvement over a good HD transfer. So I can safely ignore it for the most part. | | | | Tom. |
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