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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantCalebAndCo
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<picture of Win 8.1 floppies>

Love it!
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Loved the guy's statement at the end of the "How Real People Will Use Win 8" video above!!

A question for those of you who are more experienced with Win 7 and 8 than I currently am. 
My Dell desktop PC runs XP SP3 quite well.  As a sideline, I convert videos, film negatives, and slides to digital formats as needed by the customer.  I use the FireWire interface (IEEE 1394) to transfer from camcorders that support DV tapes.  Also use FireWire with a Nikon CoolScan Film Scanner for high-quality digital transfers from film negatives and slides. 

My understanding is that Win 7 or 8 no longer include drivers to support the FireWire interface.  Without this I am doomed.   

Does anyone know if there is a trustworthy third-party set of FireWire drivers that can be installed on Win 7 or 8 to continue to support these devices?  I can't upgrade and install Win7 or 8 if I can't support FireWire.  Thanks much for any suggestions!
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Loved the guy's statement at the end of the "How Real People Will Use Win 8" video above!!

I am a real person and that is not how I use win 8.
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Loved the guy's statement at the end of the "How Real People Will Use Win 8" video above!!

I am a real person and that is not how I use win 8.

So am I, and so is my mom whos +60 and it only took her about a minute to learn how to use it.

What's next? A video about chimpanzee who cannot drive an automatic since he knows how to drive with a manual? Grendell found two videos about persons below an idiot and now thats he's point of things shoud work? Are these morons even potty trained?
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My understanding is that Win 7 or 8 no longer include drivers to support the FireWire interface.

And the source for that "understanding"?
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What's next? A video about chimpanzee who cannot drive an automatic since he knows how to drive with a manual? Grendell found two videos about persons below an idiot and now thats he's point of things shoud work? Are these morons even potty trained?



Wow...
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My understanding is that Win 7 or 8 no longer include drivers to support the FireWire interface.  Without this I am doomed.

In my experience, when it does not find any compatible drivers installed,, Windows 7 does a fair job of searching though its online driver index and finding one for you to download.

In any case, a search for "firewire drivers windows 7" brought up a host of websites, one of the first was Fixing Firewire Problems in Windows 7.

Anyway, you won't know for certain until you try. Search for answers online... certainly there are other communities that have discussed this already with all that you need to know.
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What's next? A video about chimpanzee who cannot drive an automatic since he knows how to drive with a manual? Grendell found two videos about persons below an idiot and now thats he's point of things shoud work? Are these morons even potty trained?




By the way, I'm glad you like Windows 8.
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I've found out because I have my user profile directory on a different drive then my SSD boot drive due to lack of space on the SSD I can not upgrade to 8.1 Instead I get:

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Can't update to Windows 8.1
Sorry, it looks like this PC can't run Windows 8.1. This might be because the Users or Program Files folder is being redirected to another partition.


Lots of registry edits and tricks that seem to have about a 50% success rate.  But not sure I want to go though all the hassle.
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My understanding is that Win 7 or 8 no longer include drivers to support the FireWire interface.

And the source for that "understanding"?


Well to the best of my recollection when Windows 7 was first released, I was sure there were articles that said that the FireWire interface was being discontinued and would not be supported in Win7 and forward.  However, when Googling for this, I do not find any non-support issues other than those pointed out by Blair below.


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My understanding is that Win 7 or 8 no longer include drivers to support the FireWire interface.  Without this I am doomed.

In my experience, when it does not find any compatible drivers installed, Windows 7 does a fair job of searching though its online driver index and finding one for you to download.

In any case, a search for "firewire drivers windows 7" brought up a host of websites, one of the first was Fixing Firewire Problems in Windows 7.


Thanks much for this linked article!  This gives me some confidence that I could at least update to Win7 and hopefully be able to continue using the FireWire interface for my legacy equipment.
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Anybody else running 8.1?


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Here is mine using 8.1 Pro

Model Name              GT70 2OD-039US 
Operating System        Windows 8.1 Pro
CPU                    Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ 
CPU Speed              2.4GHz; up to 3.4GHz w/ Turbo Boost 
Cache                  6MB 
Screen Size            17.3" Full HD Anti-Reflective 
Resolution              1920 x 1080 (16:9) 
Chipset                Intel® HM87 
GPU                    NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 780M 
Video Memory            4GB GDDR5 
Audio                  Sound Blaster 
Speaker                Dynaudio Premium Speakers w/ Subwoofer 
Memory                  32GB DDR3L 1600MHz 
HDD Capacity            Super RAID 2 (128GB SSD x 3; RAID 0) + 1TB HDD 
HDD Interface          SSD RAID 0 + SATA 
Optical Drive Type      Blu-ray Disc Burner 
LAN                    Killer™ E2200 Game Networking 
WLAN                    Killer™ N1202 a/b/g/n 
Bluetooth              Yes 
Card Reader            SD (XC/HC) 
Webcam                  720P HD Webcam 
USB                    USB 3.0 x 3, USB 2.0 x 2 
ESATA                  No 
Video Port              VGA x 1, HDMI 1.4 x 1, mDP x 1 
Audio Port              Mic-in X 1, Headphone-out X 1 
AC Power Adaptor Output: 19V DC, 180W Input: 100~240V AC, 50/60Hz universal 
Battery Pack            9 Cells 
Dimension              16.85” (L) x 11.34” (W) x 2.17” (H) 
Weight                  8.6 lbs
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By the way, I'm glad you like Windows 8.

The guy who made that video must have serious difficulties to cope in his every day life. It just isn't that hard. All these three videos are classic examples of FUD. It took me much more time with manuals learning to use my new washing machine, that it took how to learn Modern UI and Windows Store Apps.

If using Windows Store Apps seem to be an impossible challenge, just don't use them. Just use the desktop applications as you did in Windows 7 and enjoy the Win8.1 "under the hood" improvements. I'm not going to list them here since I assume that every one knows how to use Google.
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My understanding is that Win 7 or 8 no longer include drivers to support the FireWire interface.

And the source for that "understanding"?


I agree, I had to get a new PCIE Firewire card for the new mobo, and Win 7 picked it straight up. No issues.
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