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HiDef "Blade Runner: The Essential 25th Anniversary Edition" may be HD DVD only, if Blu-ray does come  out it will likely be later than the HD DVD October release date.

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/blade-runner-on-hd-dvd-this-october/4485

Announcement

By Henning Molbaek
FIRST PUBLISHED May 23, 2007

In the recent released HD-DVD version of the Matrix Trilogy you will find a small paper ad for "Blade Runner."

It hints a October release of "Blade Runner: The Essential 25th Anniversary Edition" on HD DVD.

The Blu-ray logo is left out (which is not the case in other ad material from Warner) which may hint a HD-DVD only release at first. Probably for the same reasons that Matrix is a HD-DVD only release. Blu-ray still lack a confirmed feature set and also lack good commercially available production software.

More on this when we get closer to October.

Blade Runner Coming To Blu-ray and HD DVD in October...

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n a new promotional flyer housed inside next week's HD DVD release of 'Ultimate Matrix Collection,' Warner is touting an October arrival date for the highly-anticipated upcoming next-gen release of 'Blade Runner.'

Ridley Scott's seminal sci-fi classic has long been available on video, but for remained for years as one of the studio's most highly-requested library titles to receive the special edition treatment.

After over a decade of legal wrangling, Warner announced last fall that the road was finally cleared for a deluxe version of 'Blade Runner' to hit standard-def DVD, Blu-ray and HD DVD sometime in 2007, to mark the 25th anniversary of the film's original theatrical release.

However, no details have since been forthcoming -- until now.

Inside copies of the 'Ultimate Matrix Collection' (streeting this Tuesday, May 22), Warner has included the following advert that gives the first official confirmation of an arrival window for 'Blade Runner' (which is now being dubbed 'The Essential 25th Anniversary Edition'):

We've contacted Warner in hopes of more details, but as of now, the flyer is the only taster fans are going to get -- at least until the full announcement for 'Blade Runner,' which the studio says should arrive "later this summer."

Still, it's exciting news for 'Blade Runner' cultists, who have waited over two decades for what is sure to be the definitive release of the film on Blu-ray and HD DVD.

We've already listed 'Blade Runner' under the "Release Dates Pending" sections of our Blu-ray Release Schedule and HD DVD Release Schedule, and will add an official street date as soon as it is announced.

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This is the type of misinformation, that Battling Butler has posted, that I am here to stop.

You countered an article he provided with a statement by, well, you.  Sorry but the last time I checked 'because I said so' is not proof.  I have seen you provide your own misinformation so your 'word' means very little around here.

That is why you have to look at the rep. of the article writer.  This is probably someone that just saw the flyer in the Ultimate Matrix case and assumed in would be an TEMPORARY exclusive.  Please show me where it says HD DVD exclusive on that flyer or any other press release type information from Warner Bros.  You can't...so like I posted...Blade Runner coming to Blu-ray and HD DVD in October.

Please...point out my misinformation.  Please provide my post for confirmation.  I'm waiting.

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A-S, Did you even read the information I posted?

Yes.  Did you read what I posted?  Internal decoding wasn't the only thing I mentioned...was it?

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No where did it say that the PS3 will not internally decode Dolby TrueHD.It says the PS3 will not internally decode DTS-HD. Moreover, the only way to get DTS-HD out of the PS3 is via downmixed PCM. The PS3 does NOT support bit stream audio.

The PS3 does not currently decode DTS-HD...just like ALL HD DVD players, but the PS3 could be updated to support DTS-HD MA.  The HD DVD players can not.

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Here it is again, in an additional post from engadget HD:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/08/no-dolby-truehd-or-dts-hd-for-ps3-owners/

No Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD for PS3 owners? -- kind of

Posted May 8th 2007 10:30AM by Ben Drawbaugh

When the PS3 hit the street it was recognized as one of the most full featured Blu-ray players to date, but it seem now that PS3 owners aren't getting everything they thought they were. It has recently been uncovered that although the PS3 does have an HDMI 1.3 port, the software does not support bit stream audio. What this means for Blu-ray fans is that when they finally pick up one of those new Onkyo receivers with HDMI 1.3, that they still can't enjoy DTS HD because there is no way to get the bits out of the PS3. Of course the DTS track can still be down mixed and PCM audio is supported, but so much for being the most capable Blu-ray player available.

** Dolby TrueHD can still be decoded inside the PS3 and sent as uncompressed audio to the AV receiver, but if the AV receiver has an integrated decoder it can't be used instead of the PS3's decoder. **  [Yes of course, never claimed it couldn't be.]

and this from the HDMI site:

High Definition Player with DTS-HD Advanced Digital Out to New AV Receiver with DTS-HD Master Audio

You can enjoy DTS-HD Master audio by upgrading to a Blu-ray Disc or HD-DVD player with DTS-HD Advanced Digital Out [the PS3 does NOT have this]and new AV Receiver with DTS-HD Master Audio decoding. Simply connect the player and receiver with an HDMI cable. The DTS-HD bit stream will pass through the player and HDMI cable to be decoded by the AV receiver. Both player and AV receiver will need to be equipped with new HDMI Version 1.3* outputs and inputs. This way you can enjoy DTS-HD Master Audio at up to 7.1 channels at 96 k/24 bit sound that is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master.

The PS3 does do bitstream audio.  I have one and used the option a couple times to compare the difference between internal DD and DTS vs. receiver DD and DTS.  The bitstream setting is the only way to do this.  The TrueHD tracks are down mixed to 640kbps DD via bitstream (that is all the receiver is capable of).  The DTS 1.5Mbps core track is picked up by the receiver with DTS-HD HR and MA tracks are bitstreamed from the PS3 (again, that is all the receiver is capable of).

If you had a PS3 I could show you how wrong that article is.  Anyone with a PS3 and HDMI receiver could prove that article wrong.  BTW, the PS3 now has 1080p/24fps video output, high quality DVD upscaling, and media server support! 

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Do you even read what people write?

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Since you brought it up, I guess you missed the part of that article where the writer says, "The Blu-ray logo is left out (which is not the case in other ad material from Warner) which may hint a HD-DVD only release at first."  So there are no probablies about it.  That is exactly what he did and he makes no bones about it.

If common sense was at play, it would have said there probably wouldn't be any Blu-ray promotions in a HD DVD product.  That would be a major reason not to have a Blu-ray logo on a flyer inside a HD DVD case. 

And your point is what exactly?  First, that wasn't my statement it was the article writers.  And, Second, you claimed...and I quote, "This is probably someone that just saw the flyer in the Ultimate Matrix case and assumed in would be an TEMPORARY exclusive."  My response to that was, you are correct and the guy who wrote the article even says that it is what he did.  Why you are continuing to point out what I pointed out in the first place is beyond me. 

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What I was responding to was the little footnote you included after your counter arguement to the PS3 article.  You countered the article he provided with your opinion and, as I said, your opinion means very little around here. 

That's why I was responding to both statements you made.  You obviously missed one of them.

Nobody is this thick.  You have to be pulling my leg.    I didn't miss anything...you tried to discredit the author of an article, you obviously didn't read, by claiming he probably did something he admits to doing.  You do this all the time so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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Oh, gosh, where should I start...nah, you aren't worth the effort.  Go ahead and spin that however you like.  I know it helps you sleep at night. 

That's what I thought.

As I said, what ever helps you sleep at night. 

Here's an article i found over at Slashdot. I bet A_S won't post this one.
I wonder if this will affect HD-DVD?

Sony Sued for Blu-Ray Patent Violation

According to a Gamespot article, a California-based company named Target Technology is suing Sony over patents it allegedly holds for silver based reflective surfaces. The suit claims that products marketed under the Blu-ray name infringe on a patent it owns for reflective layer materials in optical discs. Target is seeking a permanent injunction preventing Sony from violating its patent rights in the future, as well as damages with interest, multiplied due to what it characterizes as deliberate and willful infringement. ' The patent addresses what Target called a need for specific types of silver-based alloys with the advantages (but not the price) of gold. According to the patent, the alloys are also more resistant to corrosion than pure silver. Target does not specify in its suit whether it believes all of Sony's Blu-ray discs infringe on its patent, or the suit applies to just a portion of the discs manufactured. The patent was filed in April of 2004 and granted in March of 2006.'"

In other News Target is suing Target Technology for trademark infringement.




*The Target suing is purely fiction that the author made up.
**The author may or may not know the exact usage of affect and effect.

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Sorry, it took so long to respond.  I'm on vacation.

Not a problem!  Take all the time you need.  In fact, just go away and enjoy your vacation.  We'll try not to brainwash too many people while you're gone.

The first Blu-Rays in Japan, were from a different format than the one that ended up being the final one.
Their discs were inside cartridges (A la DVD-RAM), but that option was abandoned as soon as a resistant enough layer was achieved in order to effectively protect the data (the data layer in HD formats is much nearer the bottom surface of the disc when compared to CD/DVD).
Manufacturers always assumed it was a temporary format only, because the manufacturing costs and loss of flexibility/comfort by the user would make it commercially not viable.

We can only speak of true Blu-Ray definitive format from about the same time of the final HD-DVD format (that also had some previous incarnations, although none of them commercially available).

So, they are kind of "tied" in terms of definitive format market dates (although yes, some japanese had been having access to HD contents in blu-ray before)

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