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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Jim Morrison
Actor/Self
BY=1943
DY=1971
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0607186/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Morrison
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/740
Self/Owner
BY=?
Tony Robinson's Coast to Coast
http://parkolmarine.co.uk/team.html
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| | Posted: | | | | Michael O'Sullivan
Actor
BY=1934
DY=1971
Only two movies, Hang 'Em High and You're a Big Boy Now
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0642783/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Sullivan_(actor)
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/michael-osullivan-54980
Actor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0642784/
Actor
BY=1955
Common Name not Investigated
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0959952/
Production Designer
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0642785/
Editor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1766438/
1934 Contributed |
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| | Posted: | | | | Alan Johnson
Director
BY=1937
DY=2018
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424466/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Johnson_(choreographer)
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Johnson
Actor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424467/
Self
BY=?
Full Steam Ahead: Victorian Railways
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8373334/
Actor
BY=?
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=alanjohnson/gender=m/alan-johnson.htm
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| | Posted: | | | | Matt Murphy
Actor/Self
BY=1929
DY=2018
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614506/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Murphy_(blues_guitarist)
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyherald/obituary.aspx?n=matt-murphy-guitar&pid=189312133
Editor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4099027/
Actor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1807462/
Actor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614508/
Actor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3286580/
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|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | | Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Devion27: Quote:
Sean Flynn 1985
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman, La révolution française
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0283620/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t330
Sean Flynn 1989
Simon Birch, Family Guy, Zoey 101
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0024960/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t374
Sean Flynn ????
Only the Brave
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9351707/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr1
Pending Sean Flynn 1985 Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Sean Flynn
BY=1989
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0024960/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Flynn_%28actor%29
http://www.seanflynn.org/bio.html
BY=1941 (Died in 1971)
Mission to Venice
Stop Train 349
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0283619/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Flynn
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7689636
BY=1985
Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman: Season Two
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0283620/
1989 BY Contributed and Approved
Profile Contribution Approved Apr 28 2011 1:57PM | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
John O'Leary (1926)
Airplane
American Dreams
Buffy the Vampire Slayers (2 eps)
NYPD Blue
My Fellow Americans
Jeff Foxworthy Show
Xena: The Path Not Taken Episode
For the Boys
The Golden Girls
Night Court
The Facts of Life
My Chauffeur
Cagney & Lacey
Dynasty
Murder, She Wrote
The Last Starfighter
Chips
Taxi
Dallas
The Jeffersons
Heroes (1977)
All the President’s Men
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0641599/
http://www.filmreference.com/film/8/John-O-Leary.html
http://www.tvrage.com/person/id-10259/John+O%27Leary
John O’Leary (??)
"Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"
"Xena: Warrior Princess"
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2579731/
Approved May 6,2010 There was some doubt as to the Xena credit and if these were two different people. I just watched the episode of Xena in which he is credited in the end credits. I had the subtitles on and not once did anyone mention the characters name and nobody that looks like him (as far as I can tell) appears in the episode. If he does it has to be either in the bar scenes or as a guard or something. And I can't find any screen cap of the character on the net. I'm starting to think that this may be a case of a character deleted from the final cut and is a credit only situation. I did find some caps of a John O'Leary that appears in Young Hercules and other Xena universe projects.  Young Hercules http://yhwiki.com/index.php?title=Minos   Xena appearances http://yhwiki.com/index.php?title=John_O%27Leary    Hercules appearances http://www.yhwiki.com/index.php?title=John_O%27Leary Now I searched the net for screen caps from his other works around the same era and I can't find any. So can't really compare him to much against that. But I did find this on https://www.aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=23249 From a 1989 film.  To me, they don't look the same. |
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| | Posted: | | | | There are two Cast Members by the name of Paul Bentley listed in the CLT.
One is an actor, the other is a Police Detective who is associated with the JFK assassination.
I could only find one site that lists the actors name, and that's wikipedia.
Now the Police Detective, I did find an obit online that says he was born in 1921.
According to IMDB this same Police Detective appears in the documentary called The Men Who Killed Kennedy released by The History Channel. But the current profile for that doesn't list him.
This is what I found so far.
Paul Bentley
Actor
BY=1942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bentley
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072855/ (NO BIRTH YEAR LISTED)
Self
BY=1921
The Lost JFK Tapes: The Assassination
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3771919/
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/25/us/25bentley.html
From the article "Paul Lester Bentley was born in Dallas on June 29, 1921. He served in the Army Air Forces in World War II and joined the Dallas police in 1947."
Hopefully this is a good starting point. Perhaps someone can find more sites for these.
Neither Contributed. Just providing documentation to start. |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Regarding Paul Bentley: I'd have no problem accepting that 1921 birth year from the NY Times article. However, the real question we need to answer first is: does he/should he appear in our database? You list 'The Lost JFK Tapes: The Assassination', and there's one lone profile for that, which lists him as "Himself - Dallas Police Detective (archi", which very much seems like unchecked IMDb-mined data. In fact, the entire cast list from that profile seems to be lifted verbatim from its IMDb-profile. We don't usually do "(archive footage)" credits, so I have to wonder whether this would even be a valid entry, if the actual credits of that documentary were used rather than the IMDb-mined cast list that we're looking at now.
Even then, the 'The Men Who Killed Kennedy' documentary you mention could play a part here as well, but that profile doesn't list him. So we have two documentaries in which he *may* be credited, except one is very obviously using an IMDb-mined cast list, and the other one doesn't list him - possibly "doesn't list him yet", but we don't know that. I think we need to be sure that this particular Paul Bentley actually does have a valid credit in the DVD Profiler database - someone needs to replace the IMDb-mined cast for 'The Lost JFK Tapes: The Assassination' with actual, as credited data. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
We appear to have a conflict regarding Jane Adams.
Some sites state she was born in 1918, others 1921.
1918
http://westernboothill.blogspot.com/2014/06/jane-adams-august-7-1918-may-21-2014.html
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0011037/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130929236/jane-adams
Find a Grave shows no picture of the grave.
http://www.classicscreams.com/Celeb_Pages/Jane_Adams.html
http://cinemorgue.wikia.com/wiki/Jane_%22Poni%22_Adams
1921
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poni_Adams
https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/adams-jane-1921
http://www.sammaroniesentertainmentfunhouse.com/farewell-jane-adams-1921-2014/
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Actors:Jane_Adams
Which one is correct? Short of visiting her grave at Arlington National Cemetery - findagrave.com mentions the exact location - to see what's on her gravestone, it's hard to make this call. Luckily I don't have her - yet, that is - in my database, so I personally don't *have* to make that call right now, but if I had too, I'd probably favor 1918 now. Why? It's not unusual that more detailed information about someone's birth year comes to light when that person dies. The 1921 birth year was documented before she died, in 2014. And then, after she died, after various obituaries, we now see that 1918 is mentioned more and more as her birth year. That had to come from somewhere. So I might be inclined to believe it was 1918 - but it's just a gut feeling, I can't prove it either way. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Regarding Paul Bentley: I'd have no problem accepting that 1921 birth year from the NY Times article. However, the real question we need to answer first is: does he/should he appear in our database? You list 'The Lost JFK Tapes: The Assassination', and there's one lone profile for that, which lists him as "Himself - Dallas Police Detective (archi", which very much seems like unchecked IMDb-mined data. In fact, the entire cast list from that profile seems to be lifted verbatim from its IMDb-profile. We don't usually do "(archive footage)" credits, so I have to wonder whether this would even be a valid entry, if the actual credits of that documentary were used rather than the IMDb-mined cast list that we're looking at now.
Even then, the 'The Men Who Killed Kennedy' documentary you mention could play a part here as well, but that profile doesn't list him. So we have two documentaries in which he *may* be credited, except one is very obviously using an IMDb-mined cast list, and the other one doesn't list him - possibly "doesn't list him yet", but we don't know that. I think we need to be sure that this particular Paul Bentley actually does have a valid credit in the DVD Profiler database - someone needs to replace the IMDb-mined cast for 'The Lost JFK Tapes: The Assassination' with actual, as credited data. Well that History Channel dvd now is well over $100 on Amazon.com, so no way am I going to buy that just to check LOL!!... And I don't think many that don't own it would either. In regards to the Lost JFK Tapes, yeah it does seem like IMDB mined data. But I would have to think that this guy would have been in it since he played such an important part in it. I guess the real question is, in regards to historic documentaries do we or don't we credit/accept archive footage as a credit. I'll leave what I posted in here as an archive documentation as I'm sure that I'm not the only one who noticed this credit. But that's why I clearly put in there that I didn't contribute either one of them. And "Kluge" definitely shouldn't list either of them on his page of birth years. |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Agreed on all counts. |
| | Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Michael Weber (1958)Producer Barbara, The Congress, Dreileben, Die Geschwister, Gespenster, Gold, Die große Stille, Die Innere Sicherheit, Jerichow, Nirgendwo in Afrika, Loong Boonmee raleuk chat, Phoenix, Le Temps Du Loup, Yella Michael Weber (19??)Actor Chicago Fire | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years | | | | Last edited: by Kluge |
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| | Posted: | | | |  Tom Brown (1913–1990) WikiActor Bud Abbott & Lou Costello in Buck Privates Come Home, The Adventures of Smilin' Jack, Anne of Green Gables, Buck Privates Come Home, Black Sheep, Hell's Highway, Central Airport, In Old Chicago, The Choppers, Judge Priest, Gunsmoke, Have Gun - Will Travel, Lassie Let's Get Tough!, The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp, The Lone Ranger, Maytime, McHale's Navy, Merrily We Live, The Pay Off, Perry Mason, These Glamour Girls, Three-Cornered Moon Tom Brown (1962)Art Diector, Production designer The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, he Parole Officer, Ahead of the Class, Apparitions, The Big Man, By the Sea, A Christmas Carol, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, A Good Day to Die Hard, Class of '76, Double Vision, Highlander: The Source, Prime Suspect: The Keeper of Souls, Spy, The Expendables 3, Farscape, Hooligans, Guest House Paradiso, I Want Candy, Inspector Morse, Kevin & Perry Go Large, Line of Duty, Mary Higgins Clark, Pie in the Sky, Saving Private Ryan, This Life +10, Tomb Raider, Whitechapel Tom/Thomas Brown, common name Tom Brown (19??) Art Diector Men in Black: International, Avengers: Endgame, Avengers: Infinity War, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, Doctor Strange, Avengers: Age of Ultron, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor: The Dark World, Anna Karenina, Wrath of the Titans, Game of Thrones, Vexed Tom Brown (19??)Producer The Adventures of Errol Flynn, Billy Wilder Speaks, Cary Grant: A Class Apart, The Men Who Made Movies: William Wellman, Rita, Stardust: The Bette Davis Story Tom Brown (19??)Actor Beacon77 Tom Brown (19??)Producer Series 7: The Contenders | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years | | | | Last edited: by Kluge |
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| | Posted: | | | | Needed birth year (Not yet contributed)
Danny Dennis
Actor
BY=1927
DY=1970
Blackboard Jungle
Decoy
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0219437/
Actor
BY=?
Green Card
Kate & Allie
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
Law & Order
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0219436/
Actor
BY=?
The Fabric of the Cosmos
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4755626/ |
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| | Posted: | | | | Needed Birth Year
Caleb Brown
Actor
BY=2006
Mother's Day
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7194863/
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/caleb-brown.html
Actor
BY=?
NCIS: Naval Criminal Investigative Service: The Third Season
-as Petty Officer Third Class Michael Jones
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2124398/ |
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