Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1 2 3 4  Previous   Next
any here good at Math??
Author Message
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,203
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
I am aware there is no "year zero". I was simply attempting to  show him the infinitum between 0 and 1.


I guess I misunderstood your post then.  My bad. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Hmmm math. I learned years ago just how subjective even Math is. Having spent many years in the natural sciences I was very used to math 2+2=4. Then I made the mistake of taking an Economics class, and the prof said what is 2 + 2, my hand went up, I know, I know 4! No, it's 7 you forgot to allow for the elasticity of demand and the supply and giz goz...needless to say I hate Econ...almost as much as I hate Hollywood.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVibroCount
The Truth is Silly Putty
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 5,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote


... or not...
If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.

Cliff
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,918
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Think of it this way, 1 Jan 0000 to 1 January 0001 is the first year.

Technically, this is wrong.  1 Jan 0000 to 31 Dec 0000 is the first year.  1 Jan 0001 starts the 2nd year.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,203
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Think of it this way, 1 Jan 0000 to 1 January 0001 is the first year.

Technically, this is wrong.  1 Jan 0000 to 31 Dec 0000 is the first year.  1 Jan 0001 starts the 2nd year.


Technically, that is wrong.  The first year of the modern calendar started on 1 Jan 0001 and ended on 31 Dec 0001.  There was no year 0000.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,918
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Unicus69:
Quote:
Technically, that is wrong.  The first year of the modern calendar started on 1 Jan 0001 and ended on 31 Dec 0001.  There was no year 0000.

Technically, I was using his example as my example.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
I like IMDB
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 3,321
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Here's my favorite math problem:



And of course: 

Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCaroline
My 3 kittehs
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
South Africa Posts: 2,652
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Unicus69:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote:

Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Your problem is that you are thinking in whole numbers. Everything from 0 to 1 is less than a whole number. This means that even though the 21st century began 1 January 2000 the first year was not complete until 1 January 2001.


Your wrong there;  the start of the first year of the 21st Century is 2001 and not 2000,
the year 2000 was the 10th year of the 1990's..


Again, you are missing anything less than a whole number.

Think of it this way, 1 Jan 0000 to 1 January 0001 is the first year.


You have bought into the myth that there was a year 'zero'.  There wasn't.  There is a lot of material on this.  Here is one excerpt from one:

The concept of a year "zero" is a modern myth (but a very popular one). Roman numerals do not have a figure designating zero, and treating zero as a number on an equal footing with other numbers was not common in the 6th century when our present year reckoning was established by Dionysius Exiguus. Dionysius let the year C.E. 1 start one week after what he believed to be Jesus' birthday.

Therefore, C.E. 1 follows immediately after 1 B.C.E. with no intervening year zero. So a person who was born in 10 B.C.E. and died in C.E. 10, would have died at the age of 19, not 20.

Without having read all the posts after this one, I will add my 2 cents worth.

If there was no year 0, the first year of the 1st century is 01 January 0001 to 31st December 0001, therefore, the LAST year for that same century is 01 January 0100 to 31st December 0100, which makes 01 January 2001 the start of the first year of the 21st Century. Each century has 100 years and not 99 for the first and 100 thereafter.

If there was a year 0, then the first century would have ended on 31st December 0099 and the 2nd starts on 1st January 0100, which would mean then that the 21st century starts on 1st January 2000, but as was stated earlier, the Romans do not have a 0 and started counting from 1, so we are left with the 21st century starting on 1st January 2001.

By the same token, for each of us when we are born we are in our first year and celebrate the first birthday on the anniversary of our birth but it is actually the start of our second year of life, hence when we say we are (insert age here) we are actually that age plus the days/weeks/months since the day of birthday or on the (insert age here) + 1 year of our lives.
<---------Mithrandir, Laverne and Shirley
Caroline
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,918
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
So, how much is that check worth?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
So, how much is that check worth?

Unless I'm mistaken....... 2 cents.
Dan
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,918
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
So, how much is that check worth?

Unless I'm mistaken....... 2 cents.

That was my initial guess too.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTigiHof
Keep your options open
Registered: March 13, 2007
Germany Posts: 465
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
So, how much is that check worth?

Unless I'm mistaken....... 2 cents.

Nope, two tenth of a cent, which should be rounded down to zero. 
Michael
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
Registered: May 1, 2002
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 6,747
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
proof that 2 equals 1:

Claim: 1 = 2
Proof:
x² - x² = x² - x² | left side: break down the binomial; right side: use the Binomial theorem
x * (x - x) = (x + x) * (x - x) | devide through (x - x)
x = x + x
1x = 2x | devide through x
1 = 2
Karsten
DVD Collectors Online

 Last edited: by DJ Doena
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
I like IMDB
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 3,321
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
So, how much is that check worth?


$536.49

You can see the math here.
Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAsphyxion
All hail to robot wars!
Registered: May 23, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 23
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting DJ Doena:
Quote:
proof that 2 equals 1:

Claim: 1 = 2
Proof:
x² - x² = x² - x² | left side: break down the binomial; right side: use the Binomial theorem
x * (x - x) = (x + x) * (x - x) | devide through (x - x)
x = x + x
1x = 2x | devide through x
1 = 2


You can't divide through 0 which you do where you divide through (x - x).
I make love in theory and touch myself in practice.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
Registered: May 1, 2002
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 6,747
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Asphyxion:
Quote:
You can't divide through 0 which you do where you divide through (x - x).
The candidate gets 100 points. For a 101 points you would have got a teddy bear.

;)
Karsten
DVD Collectors Online

    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1 2 3 4  Previous   Next