Quoting Tracer:

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Again the common name has nothing to do with proper spelling or upper and lower case letters, birth name, the name they go by personally.

The proper spelling has more weight than the amount of incorrect/capitalized spelled names. Why else would the rules say to "Use the film credits to determine whether the actor capitalizes this article or not." if we aren't allowed to use it for a common name?

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How do we know that the credits WFRR aren't simply wrong, and that the other 27 profiles aren't right?

I can not answer that question, but if someone can answer this I am happy to know.

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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:

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The proper spelling has more weight than the amount of incorrect/capitalized spelled names. Why else would the rules say to "Use the film credits to determine whether the actor capitalizes this article or not." if we aren't allowed to use it for a common name?

The common name is just for linking, the rule "Use the film credits to determine wheter the actor capitalizes this article or not." is to for that profile your contributing has noting to do with how do determine a common name.

If it's not for determining a proper common name then what else would I need it for then?

Linking DVD profiler profiles for the same actor or crew member that may be credited differently in the various profiles.

Example someone choose Robert G. Tapert as the common name for one of the Evil Dead movies with the credited as name of Rob Tapert.  I assume to link all their profiles for this producer, even though I would argue he goes by Rob Tapert more commonly than Robert G. Tapert.  But, at any rate I'm sure it worked to allow them to link all the profiles they had him in your local DB.  What it did for other users would either break the linking they had with in their profiles of Rob Tapert and allow linking for any profiles they had with Robert G. Tapert.

Now your wanting to take the common name field to a new level and use it for poper names.  Your wanting to use if for proper spelling and capitalization.  Which has nothing to do with most commonly credited as in the DVD Profiler profiles.

It is interesting to note that you put this up for vote and asked us our thoughts.  When it appears you had no intention to even consider what anyone else says, unless they 100% agree with you.  I'm not sure why you even bothered, if you planned on contributing him as Don DiGirolamo all along?

I can shed some light on that, I think: Martin probably started the poll as a result of my no-vote. That's not unusual, and also not wrong, IMHO - I've done the same thing a number of times. You make a contribution, receive a no-vote, and want to see whether the community supports your point of view or that of the no-voter. An overwhelming majority either way might (a) be reason to withdraw the contribution, or (b) convince the no-voter to reconsider his no-vote.

The results of this poll were ambigious to say the least - not the overwhelming clarity one would have hoped for, and as such, apparently no reason for Martin to reconsider his contribution. Again: seeing the not-so-conclusive results of this poll, and the 15:1 score on his actual update, we can hardly blame Martin for "ignoring the answer". He simply didn't get a clear answer, so certainly don't blame him. I just don't agree with the end result. I must say I was pretty amazed at the ambigious results of this poll, especially since I haven't seen a single explanatory post from any of the "DiGi"-voters, except Martin himself.

I was also suprised at the relatively low number of votes altogether: some polls garner a hundred votes in 24 hours, and this poll has had just 27 voters up to now... While this is something that concerns us all: Mr. Digirolamo has been pretty productive, so most of us will have his name appear in our databases at least once. Add to that the fact that the software doesn't even allow us to have both variations in our database, so we have to pick one of both alternatives, and I'd have thought that there would be more users willing to state their opinion on the matter. Instead I'm curious to see that the discussion only really got going now that the update has already been approved. I expect most users just shrug their shoulders and think: "Who cares?". I expect they'd only start caring about it when I'd submit 26 "Don DiGirolamo credited as Don Digirolamo" updates to his other appearances in my database (spread over various regions/localities, I might add). I won't do that, since I'm not convinced this is the way to go, but still... I'd have liked to see more voters/opinions in this thread, as I feel it's a rather simple issue that concerns most of us.

Tim:

You call 2 to 1 ambiguous. <whew>

Strange.

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Well, it wasn't enough to convince Martin (again: combined with the 15 to 1 vote on his actual contribution)... And you have to admit: this 19 to 9 is not quite the same result as, say, the Capitalization of "Is"-tread, which is currently at 82 to 17...

I don't think what any of us could say would convince Martin.

I think what it boils down to most members don't really care.  We aren't really talking about a spelling difference but a capitalization difference so as far as the program is concerned Don DiGirolamo and Don Digrolamo are the same.

I don't know how many times I've seen contributions for Dino and Raffaella De Laurentiis as either De Laurentiis or de Laurentiis depending on how they are presented in the credits.  The same is for Phil LaMarr as either LaMarr or Lamarr depending on the way the credits show them.