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Apart from a very limited few exceptions, this indeed means that we basically eliminate the "digipak" as a case type from DVD Profiler, since about 90% of all digipaks come in a slipcase.

Unless you also profile multi-movie sets with only one profile, you will still need digipak as a case type. Please don't keep saying it could be removed.

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And now digipaks inside slip cases are equivalent to keep cases inside slip cases. That just seems illogical to me.

Like m.cellophane, I really find this a big loss. Apart from a very limited few exceptions, this indeed means that we basically eliminate the "digipak" as a case type from DVD Profiler, since about 90% of all digipaks come in a slipcase. While I ultimately understand the need to remove the term "box set" from case types - to stop users like Rifter from using it to indicate the profile type - I really cannot see the change to "slip case" as an improvement.

This isn't about me.  This is about addressing inadequacies in the program that have been there for far too long because certain users refuse to allow any corrections.  We're talking about master profiles here, and the fact that there is no easy way to designate them as box sets UNLESS you check that box under case types.  Calling it a digipack is simply stupid because it isn't.  Its a box, or if you prefer, a slip case.  I freely admit that boxset is not ideal either, but at least it is partially correct because it does involve a box.  And as we have said dozens of times, the child profile contains the information on what type of case actually holds the disc itself.  Digipack is entirely correct in that context.  Or keep case, if that's what is used.  Why can't you get that through your head?

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Like m.cellophane, I have lots (hundreds!) of digipaks inside slipcases, and likewise I also have quite a large number of keepcases inside slipcases. Until now, these were all correctly called "digipak" and "keepcase". That was valuable information to me - not in the least because I store both case types in different locations in my house. The case type would actually tell me where to look for it. Suddenly, there reduced to one-and-the-same case type, and with that, I lose the distinction between "keepcase-in-slipcover" and "digipak-in-slipcover" - they're now all going to called "slip case"... While I understand how this came about, it must be clear to you that I'm losing valuable information here: while until now, we could actually distinguish between two very different case types, we can no longer do that (yes, locally I still can, I know, that's not the point). Everyone was asking for MORE case types, and we actually end up eliminating a much-used one. I don't get that. And looking at the results of these polls, lots of other users also don't get that.

Why is it a loss?  What is so bloody special about a digipack?  It is just a means of securing a bunch of discs to prevent them from being damaged.  It has no more intrinsic value than any other form of container.  And I don't see anybody eliminating anything.  It is, or should be, a case of calling it what it actually is.  The outer cover is not a digipack and there is no way you can stretch logic to make it so.

You guys just can't find a way around letting your personal preferences dictate what you want to put in the online database.  I don't care where you store things in your house.  That has NO RELEVANCE whatsoever to how the profile for the online db is supposed to be.  Like any other part of the profile, you can call it whatever you feel like locally, but don't contribute it.

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And now digipaks inside slip cases are equivalent to keep cases inside slip cases. That just seems illogical to me.

Like m.cellophane, I really find this a big loss.

I totally agree with you on this. Unfortunately Ken doesn't see it that way

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And now digipaks inside slip cases are equivalent to keep cases inside slip cases. That just seems illogical to me.

Like m.cellophane, I really find this a big loss.

I totally agree with you on this. Unfortunately Ken doesn't see it that way

I would find this a big loss as well. If digipacks in slipcases (the vast majority of the digipacks out there) are going to be thrown on one heap with keepcases in slipcases, I'd better start locking my case types...

I don't like this either. I'll also be locking my case types. I think Ken's change is a backward step, but it's his program and I can only hope he changes his mind.

I am sorry, but I have to agree with James on this.  It doesnt make any sense to lump different case types into one single catagory simply because they are contained in a cardboard sleeve.  I can understand this when we are talking about 'Box Sets' where there will be child profiles but not for a single release.

While it might not be important to some people, the 'real' case type is important to others.  Ken really needs to reconsider this decision.

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What loss?  You do realize we're talking about the parent profile here?  That we're talking about a box?  A cardboard box is NOT a digipack and never was.  We still call the case type in the child profiles a digipack if that's what it is.  That hasn't changed one bit.  Nothing has been lost at all.

Unless of course, you're one of those who likes to cram 5 lbs of crap into a 4 lb bagl by stuffing everything into the master profile.  If that's the case, then you'll just have to use your local settings and lock 'em down.

No, you aren't.  If you look at the new images Dan has included in the 'case type thread', you will see that they are all single feature releases.

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I am sorry, but I have to agree with James on this.  It doesnt make any sense to lump different case types into one single catagory simply because they are contained in a cardboard sleeve.  I can understand this when we are talking about 'Box Sets' where there will be child profiles but not for a single release.

While it might not be important to some people, the 'real' case type is important to others.  Ken really needs to reconsider this decision.

BS, Unicus.  A master profile is not a digipack.  Its absurd to even think you can call it that.  Nobody has said anything about single releases.  I certainly won't call a single release case type anything but a keep case, or a snapper, or even  -- gasp!  -- a digipack!

Fixing the case types is only half the problem anyway.  If the other half gets fixed, then you won't have any room to squawk.

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I am sorry, but I have to agree with James on this.  It doesnt make any sense to lump different case types into one single catagory simply because they are contained in a cardboard sleeve.  I can understand this when we are talking about 'Box Sets' where there will be child profiles but not for a single release.

While it might not be important to some people, the 'real' case type is important to others.  Ken really needs to reconsider this decision.

BS, Unicus.  A master profile is not a digipack.  Its absurd to even think you can call it that.  Nobody has said anything about single releases.  I certainly won't call a single release case type anything but a keep case, or a snapper, or even  -- gasp!  -- a digipack!

Fixing the case types is only half the problem anyway.  If the other half gets fixed, then you won't have any room to squawk.

You were probably typing this when I posted my last post so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.  But, as I said in that post, take a look at Dan's new examples in the 'case type' thread.  He is talking about ANYTHING that comes in a 'slip case'.  Unless I am a complete moron, 'Near Dark', 'Amelie' & 'Reds', are all single releases.