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Debate on 'Common Names'. Opinions wanted.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
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I have the same problem with Nicole Kidman. She is credited in Dead Calm, The Interpreter, and Fur.
But the actress is redhead in the first movie, blonde in the second, and brunette in the third. IMDb seems to certify she is the same actress, but I have doubts... 


   
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How do YOU know that Dona Hardy=Donna Hardy, same is true of all the possibilities for Zajonc. Have you done anything such as comparative screen caps to be certain that you are not dealing with different people using similar names. I suspect you have not.


I have the same problem with Nicole Kidman. She is credited in Dead Calm, The Interpreter, and Fur.
But the actress is redhead in the first movie, blonde in the second, and brunette in the third. IMDb seems to certify she is the same actress, but I have doubts... 


Then you need glasses

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Rather than turning this, once again, into a discussion about "common names" in general, could we possibly go back to discussing the two examples at hand? Like lyonsden5 says: it doesn't matter what we pick, as long as we agree on something. So let's pick a "common name" for both, and move on.

Oh, I can see it now.

A thread for each and every time we need to have a stupid common name.

This is getting old really fast.

At some point a few weeks ago someone complained that they were being "unjustly persecuted" (or words to the effect) because they didn't participate fully, due to their wanting different data. So now I feel I'm in the same boat - the common name nonsense is doing nothing but screwing up the database, and - like someone posted earlier about it - will get us back to ping-ponging of profiles. because people aren't going to agree at all about names. The ONLY way this will work is if KEN TELLS US what a person's common name is to be.

So I guess - since I don't want to corrupt my data - I am being punished and can't use the whole program to its fullest.


Interestingly enough, I have yet to see a "common name" get 'ping ponged' since this feature was released months ago.

This fear appears to be a red herring.


Great answer, hal. Instead of dealing with his concen put him down and insult him for it. There are a lot of users sitting on the isdelines with this function, there are a handful of users who are actively trying to stake their claim to the gold in Aaska and i could count them on both hands.

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Glasses or not there is no way you can tell these three people are the same using screen shots.







Perhaps there are three separate R//RS's around 
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Hey rick:

Whyy do you try and counter this with "A" list personalities. go try it with some lower level personalities and then we MIGHT begin to understand.

Talk about your basic red herring. i just love the way you people treat someone who disagrees with you.

I also am deeply amused at the vociferous abilities of lurkers who don't Contribute but want to leech off the work of everyone else.

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There are a lot of users sitting on the isdelines with this function, there are a handful of users who are actively trying to stake their claim to the gold in Aaska and i could count them on both hands.

I see it the other way around. In my experience, there are not more than about a dozen persistent whiners that keep bickering about it, while the rest of the community is busy improving the database. That is also what I gather from Ken's posts earlier today.

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Many users continue to use the Credited As field as intended


Once again, this thread has degenerated into a general pro/against "common names" thread. Ken's instructions are crystal clear: he urges us to use the feature. If you're not willing to do that - please stay the @*#! out of this thread. Part of the process is to come to the forums to debate certain problematic cases. This thread was about Dona Hardy and about Robert Zajonc, alias "Bobby Z". Italo Disco and I have already worked out the Dona Hardy thing on our own - we now both agree the correct "common name" is Dona Hardy, with one N. That leaves us with Robert Zajonc, alias Bobby Z. Any thoughts on this, anyone? Or would you people rather ignore this, and just bicker on about absolutely nothing?
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Now that was a productive insult Tim....NOT. Can't engage...insult!

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Hey rick:

Whyy do you try and counter this with "A" list personalities. go try it with some lower level personalities and then we MIGHT begin to understand.

Talk about your basic red herring. i just love the way you people treat someone who disagrees with you.

Skip


Actually Gerri seems to think I have a pretty good handle on the whole situation.

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people seem to be all hung up on just what the "correct" common name will be. All the common name does is link multiple entries together. As has been pointed out numerous times it doesn't even have to be a name, it can be a number.

If we decide it's not Ron Howard or Ronny Howard but simply "Thatkidfromandygriffith" then that would work.



I couldn't have said it better myself! You are exactly right.

-Gerri



I'll trust her opinion over your's any day.



Oooo - an edit: I see you're once again thaking a cheap shot at those who seemingly don't do as much as you  Nice move. Wonder if Profiler Plus will finally have the ignore feature 
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Did I name any name, Rick? No...I didn't did I. Hmmmm interesting protest and more insulting attitude.

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I'll try again: this thread was about Dona Hardy and about Robert Zajonc, alias "Bobby Z". Italo Disco and I have already worked out the Dona Hardy thing on our own - we now both agree the correct "common name" is Dona Hardy, with one N. That leaves us with Robert Zajonc, alias Bobby Z. Any thoughts on what we best use as "common name" for him, anyone?

Honestly, if no-one wants to add anything constructive to this discussion - so be it. I'll happily decide for myself what to use. But don't complain to me later, okay?
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Did I name any name, Rick? No...I didn't did I. Hmmmm interesting protest and more insulting attitude.

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That leaves us with Robert Zajonc, alias Bobby Z. Any thoughts on what we best use as "common name" for him, anyone?


Works for me
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I have ZERO titles credited as Robert, ONE title as Bobby and EIGHT titles as Robert "Bobby".

Most Common name Robert "Bobby"

Including wishlist
ZERO Robert, ONE Bobby, TWELVE Robert "Bobby"

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Using two links in a forum is fine - as long as they aren't on the same line.

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I also am deeply amused at the vociferous abilities of lurkers who don't Contribute but want to leech off the work of everyone else.

Skip - keep in mind that there is NO requirement that people contribute. They bought a registration key, be glad in that.

Judging a user negatively because they don't contribute or don't have dozens of contributions to their credit is not fair.  There is no such thing as a Lurker here.
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I also am deeply amused at the vociferous abilities of lurkers who don't Contribute but want to leech off the work of everyone else.

Skip - keep in mind that there is NO requirement that people contribute. They bought a registration key, be glad in that.

Judging a user negatively because they don't contribute or don't have dozens of contributions to their credit is not fair.  There is no such thing as a Lurker here.


I think I'm the lurker in the mind of Skip  . I contributed nearly 400 new profiles, so I don't care too much for what he says. But I know that he has a tooth against me since I said that a strict application of the rules (as recopy spelling mistakes  ) seems mad to me and that I won't contribute anymore in those conditions.
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