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Why Conservatives Just Lovve McCain (Locked) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Rico:
The anti-war mentality is as dangerous and reckless, perhaps more so than the "war mentality". I grew up in the era of the peaceniks. Peace is a laudable goal, and we will see periods of peace, but to ignore the reality of war and acknowledge that from time to time it's going to happen is simply not realistic. No one wants to go to war, it's hell, people die, sometimes innocent people die, gratefully today this is becoming less that in years past, and I hope we will be able to reduce the loss of innocents even further in the coming years.
The peace mentality generally leads to weakness and an appeasement attitude. "Can't we all just get along." This mentality would eventually end the US, as we would become the target of those wanting to test that weakness. We very well could have situation where we actually be fighting an invader off of OUR soil and beaches, I prefer to fight on the enemies beaches, thank you very much. But if they come here, then they will run into me and more like me, which will be protecting the peaceniks while they wring the hands and chant "Wore is me"
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: April 8, 2007 | Posts: 1,057 |
| Posted: | | | | Hi Guys,
I'm a Viet Nam veteran with 3 tours of duty, & was told communism would engulf (domino theory) the whole area, if we didn't stop the red commies. It did not quite turn out that way, now you see wall street companies setting up business there.
Skip - Save your lecture pal. Yes we need to maintain a strong military!
Brian - I'm quite aware of Mr. McCains exploits & heroism. The need to remind me is/was unnecessary! What you fail to address is the constant talk, & warnings of war, by McCain as depicted in the film. Your argument is your opinion, not some fact that makes him less prone to war. Interviews with 3 - 4 top ranking Generals, have expressed how they would be un-comfortable with him controlling our nukes, due to his un-controlled anger.
Take Care Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick! Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I thank you for your service, Rico. The way the peaceniks treated you and your brethren upon returning home is, to me, one of the darker days in our history. And you above all, know better even than me, that no one wants war.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | One thing that scares me about voting for McCain is what would happen if the unthinkable happens and he dies.
Palin becomes President. It's hard for me to think of a worse fate. |
| Registered: April 8, 2007 | Posts: 1,057 |
| Posted: | | | | Hi Guys, Quote: One thing that scares me about voting for McCain is what would happen if the unthinkable happens and he dies.
Palin becomes President. It's hard for me to think of a worse fate.
Careful Doc. my humorous post showing Palin in the oval office, earned me 3 red arrows, your tip-toeing in the valley of red arrow throwers. Take Care Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick! Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
Palin becomes President. It's hard for me to think of a worse fate. I can. His name is Obama! | | | Hal |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote: Careful Doc. my humorous post showing Palin in the oval office, earned me 3 red arrows, your tip-toeing in the valley of red arrow throwers. So far, it's gotten me a green arrow - but I don't think any red arrows should be given PERIOD for political views unless you're a mean-ass bastard when you do it and your post violates forum rules. People who give red arrows because of differing political views that don't break forum rules are mean-ass bastards. | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: I can. His name is Obama! Well, Obama knows how to answer tough questions. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote: Hi Guys,
I'm a Viet Nam veteran with 3 tours of duty, & was told communism would engulf (domino theory) the whole area, if we didn't stop the red commies. It did not quite turn out that way, now you see wall street companies setting up business there. Much respect for that. Out of all of the VFWs, you guys got the short stick. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote: I'm a Viet Nam veteran with 3 tours of duty A big THANKS from me as well. I have a lot of respect for those who serve in the Armed Forces and I have seven years of service as well. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,394 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote: One thing that scares me about voting for McCain is what would happen if the unthinkable happens and he dies.
Palin becomes President. It's hard for me to think of a worse fate. A worse fate to me would be if the reverse happens and we end up with an equally unqualified person taking the office of President, namely Barak. The likelihood of Palin becoming president if McCain is elected is far less than the likelihood of Obama becoming President if HE is elected. I realize you didn't mention why you fear Palin. Maybe it isn't because of lack of experience -- because if that were the reason, you should have as much to fear from Obama's inexperience. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole) Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges. DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Experience or lack thereof hasn't played a factor in my views of Sarah Palin. She hems and haws at the tough questions and tends to fall back on catch phrases such as "Hockey Mom" and how she's a "maverick". You don't call yourself a maverick, it's like coming up with a nickname for yourself. Other people need to call you a maverick before you can be one.
I wish the interviewers made her answer the questions instead of proceeding to the next one.
She also seems to play dirty politics - and I have very little tolerance for that. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote: Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote: One thing that scares me about voting for McCain is what would happen if the unthinkable happens and he dies.
Palin becomes President. It's hard for me to think of a worse fate. A worse fate to me would be if the reverse happens and we end up with an equally unqualified person taking the office of President, namely Barak. The likelihood of Palin becoming president if McCain is elected is far less than the likelihood of Obama becoming President if HE is elected. I realize you didn't mention why you fear Palin. Maybe it isn't because of lack of experience -- because if that were the reason, you should have as much to fear from Obama's inexperience. I have to agree, ken. Can you say thin resume? The man has NO qualifications to be President, he didn't do the job he was elected to do in either the Illinois Legislature or the US Senate. He has lied to the American people, repeatedly, he has refused to provide answers to direct questions relating to his past. The answers he has provided have been obscure at best, based on what is KNOWN. He will bring change allright, the change will be all that you have in your pocket. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: June 3, 2007 | Posts: 333 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote: A worse fate to me would be if the reverse happens and we end up with an equally unqualified person taking the office of President, namely Barak. The likelihood of Palin becoming president if McCain is elected is far less than the likelihood of Obama becoming President if HE is elected. I realize you didn't mention why you fear Palin. Maybe it isn't because of lack of experience -- because if that were the reason, you should have as much to fear from Obama's inexperience. I don't see the lack of experience as that much of a problem. No experience can truly prepare one for the presidency. What troubles me with Palin is not her lack of experience, but her lack of basic knowledge of the issues that speaks to not only inexperience but disinterest. Most of my friend are far more up on the basic issues than she has appeared to be in her interviews. Inexperience can be fixed, but the other...? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,394 |
| Posted: | | | | And I don't happen to like the way Obama sidesteps issues and questions which don't suit him. For me, experience IS important, and I'm not impressed with Obama's. Sure, inexperience can be fixed -- but the job of President of the United States in no place for on-the-job training in basics. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole) Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges. DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,372 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Snark: Quote:
I don't see the lack of experience as that much of a problem. No experience can truly prepare one for the presidency. What troubles me with Palin is not her lack of experience, but her lack of basic knowledge of the issues that speaks to not only inexperience but disinterest. Most of my friend are far more up on the basic issues than she has appeared to be in her interviews. Inexperience can be fixed, but the other...? Actually knowledge can be "fixed" easier than experience. You can learn things by studying them and can learn things before you need to know them. Gaining knowledge is easy. Experience however only happens after the fact. You can't overcome inexperience without actually having some experience in that field. You can overcome a lack of knowledge by learning about that field. EDIT: edited to fix the quote | | | Last edited: by lyonsden5 |
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