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Star Trek Fans (Trekkies) Bash the New Film
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantCalidain
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I think it is safe to say that those who pull the Star Trek strings (Paramount) decided that JJ Abrams' fresh new take on the franchise would revitalize what was clearly becoming a stale franchise!!!  The last movie was a bomb and the most recent television series, Star Trek: Enterprise (which I enjoyed somewhat) was a ratings disaster!!!

I wouldn't hold your breath for any Voyager or other old franchise Star Trek projects!!!
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Where the frak is Agent Daniels?

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Maybe they can only interfere with time travels that were accomplished using technology and an actual intention to time-travel. The ST11 time travel was an accident by a force of nature.
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When is the long over due ST Voyager movie coming?


Spoilers for the new movie so putting this in tags -

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As much as I'd like to see further TNG/DS9/Voyager era films, as the new movie has damaged the timeline with the destruction of Vulcan, events as we know them may have happened very differently if at all. So at this time, I'm not sure how a Voyager film could be made.


In the Voyager timeline only romulus was destroyed.
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The timeline hasn't been damaged - an alternate timeline was created.  In essence, we now have two Star Trek universes.



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What do you base that on? From everything that was shown in the film, it's all set in the "primary" universe. Therefore the way I see it, it's like "First Contact" where they see Earth transform into a Borg Planet. The only way to go back to how things were would be to stop the Romulans from destroying Vulcan/Killing Kirk's father/etc... .


First of all Spock says at the end of the film that this is an alternate timelime, plus Nimoy is credited as Spock Prime and the Heroes dude just as Spock
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First of all Spock says at the end of the film that this is an alternate timelime, plus Nimoy is credited as Spock Prime and the Heroes dude just as Spock

Alternate Timeline doesn't mean that the original timeline ist still out there "somewhere". Has nobody ever watched "Back to the Future: Part II"?
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Alternate Timeline doesn't mean that the original timeline ist still out there "somewhere". Has nobody ever watched "Back to the Future: Part II"?

Sorry - different universe! 
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Saw it today. Thought they did a really great job! 
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First of all Spock says at the end of the film that this is an alternate timelime, plus Nimoy is credited as Spock Prime and the Heroes dude just as Spock

Are spoiler tags really that hard to use? 
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First of all Spock says at the end of the film that this is an alternate timelime, plus Nimoy is credited as Spock Prime and the Heroes dude just as Spock

Are spoiler tags really that hard to use? 


Why would I use spoiler tags for something that everybody already knows from the MTV clips and such? It's not that I'm giving away the story or something.
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First of all Spock says at the end of the film that this is an alternate timelime, plus Nimoy is credited as Spock Prime and the Heroes dude just as Spock

Are spoiler tags really that hard to use? 


Why would I use spoiler tags for something that everybody already knows from the MTV clips and such? It's not that I'm giving away the story or something.


Personally, I never watch any stuff like MTV clips, or any other movie review show, nor do I read any of the press.

No problem for me, since I already saw the movie a month ago. But what may seem irrelevant plot info to you, may have another impact on someone elses movie experience.

Spoiler tags would have been nice.
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First of all Spock says at the end of the film that this is an alternate timelime, plus Nimoy is credited as Spock Prime and the Heroes dude just as Spock

Are spoiler tags really that hard to use? 


Why would I use spoiler tags for something that everybody already knows from the MTV clips and such? It's not that I'm giving away the story or something.

I can think of two reasons.  First, this isn't something that everybody knows as everbody doesn't watch MTV clips and such.  Some people avoid them like the plague so that they don't have parts of the movie spoiled for them.  This is the first I have ever heard of an 'alternate timeline' so my perception of the movie is now changed.

Second, it's just common courtesy.
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Go see it!  Then there's no more worry about spoilers.
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On my way out the door now. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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While I don't usually like 'time travel' as a plot device, I understand why they chose to use it here.  Without the altered timeline, they are stuck with Trek history as we know it.  With the new timeline, they can do whatever they want.  I am interested to see where they will take it.  I was very happy to see that Nimoy was included to 'pass the torch'.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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While I don't usually like 'time travel' as a plot device, I understand why they chose to use it here.  Without the altered timeline, they are stuck with Trek history as we know it.  With the new timeline, they can do whatever they want.  I am interested to see where they will take it.  I was very happy to see that Nimoy was included to 'pass the torch'.


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Indeed, with a clean slate they don't have to deal with all the continuity errors that litter the Trek universe.
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Indeed, with a clean slate they don't have to deal with all the continuity errors that litter the Trek universe.

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Yup, they get to create all new ones![/quote]
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