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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: If you had been on Wall Street that day, I highly doubt you'd ever "laugh about it". Possibly we need to differentiate a bit here. Nobody (except for some reaaal strange people) is laughing about what happenend on 9/11. What gets a laugh though, is the absurdity of this article, which quite obviously is meant as a satire to caricature the recent speach of President Obama. You don't even have to share the political point of view of the author (obviously not a friend of the president) to find the position taken extremely ridiculous. And one thing (of many others) that defines a "good" punchline is that it gives an unexpected twist to reality. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Fully agree with that, goblins. |
| Registered: April 8, 2007 | Posts: 1,057 |
| Posted: | | | | Herr Goblins - Nicely said Perhaps your comments are agreed upon, but other motivations (not known) can explain the the diametrical position emphasized by others? Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick! Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote: Herr Goblins - Nicely said
Perhaps your comments are agreed upon, but other motivations (not known) can explain the the diametrical position emphasized by others?
Rico The only motivation behind my comments is the belief that an event that resulted in the deaths of over 3000 people is not appropriate fodder for humorists. It's really quite that simple. | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gendji: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
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Actually, what I meant was, he could have read the posts and made a decision not to make a totally unnecessary comment.
My point exactly. Sorry, but hal's comment wasn't unnecessary as it shows the mods that, at least one user, finds the post inappropriate due to the bad on political threads. We have newish mods and, I am quite sure, this helps them decide whether or not action is required. As an aside, if the mods are doing a great job, and there's no need for an extra "forum police", there certainly isn't any need for an extra "forum police, police". If hal's post was unnecessary, your post was doubly so. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote: Herr Goblins - Nicely said
Perhaps your comments are agreed upon, but other motivations (not known) can explain the the diametrical position emphasized by others?
Rico Did you honestly think that some people wouldn't be offended by that article? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 452 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting Rico:
Quote: Herr Goblins - Nicely said
Perhaps your comments are agreed upon, but other motivations (not known) can explain the the diametrical position emphasized by others?
Rico Did you honestly think that some people wouldn't be offended by that article? That's not the point, my mother felt uneasy about the Hitler talkshow spoof on Family Guy a few years ago. She made her point, I accepted her point of view and she accepted that I found it ridiculously funny. Or maybe I'm just a bit too sensitive about censorship issues at the moment given what's going on in my country right now... | | | Last edited: by Peter von Frosta |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | Regardless whether one is offended by the 9/11 content (which I am), one cannot respond to the topics covered by the satire itself, which is related to Obama's policies, since those topics are political...and politics is a banned subject. I'm quite baffled that this thread has been allowed. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Peter von Frosta: Quote: Or maybe I'm just a bit too sensitive about censorship issues at the moment given what's going on in my country right now... This isn't about censorship...at least it isn't for me. From my point of view, we have two issues... The first is the humor. While I accept that you find it funny, you have to accept that others will be offended. I don't see the latter happening. What I see is an implication that those who were offended are just too sensitive. The second point, and I see that James has already touched on it, is that political topics are off limits. Political satire, while satire, is still political. As such, the OP should have been removed. I, too, am baffled. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: April 8, 2007 | Posts: 1,057 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote: The point here is; just silly laugh or don't laugh, way too much emotion is being spent here. Both sides "laugh/don't laugh" are way too polarized & dogmatic, let's move on to something new, hopefully we can all laugh about another subject. Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick! Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | @ Unicus: That would imply that any discussion of Chaplin's The Great Dictator on these forums is banned, both because the film and any discussion of it can be construed as "political" and because people might be offended (a whole lot more people were killed in WW2 than on 9/11, right?). Apparently Spain's former fascist leader Generalissimo Franco was offended by it, because The Great Dictator was banned in Spain until his death in 1975. I somehow find it hard to believe that the fact that the late Franco apparently took offence or the fact that Chaplin made a "political" film would be a reason to ban any discussion of it here.
@ Rico: Amen! | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 452 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting Peter von Frosta:
Quote: Or maybe I'm just a bit too sensitive about censorship issues at the moment given what's going on in my country right now... The first is the humor. While I accept that you find it funny, you have to accept that others will be offended. I don't see the latter happening. What I see is an implication that those who were offended are just too sensitive. Okay, I can accept that you may read my posting this way. I was just pointing out that not everybody who was on Wall Street that day might feel this way. Let's face it, someone will always be offended by a statement, may it be political or not. I do accept different opinions. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 906 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Sorry, but hal's comment wasn't unnecessary as it shows the mods that, at least one user, finds the post inappropriate due to the bad on political threads. We have newish mods and, I am quite sure, this helps them decide whether or not action is required.
Isn't that why we have the red arrow? If you find a post inappropriate, give it a red arrow and move on. As Ken has said earlier, the red arrow now works as a "report to moderator" button | | | The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity | | | Last edited: by reybr |
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