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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
On the topic of constant height setup (assuming an anamorphic projector system), I honestly don't see the draw. The digital scaling that goes along with them is something I try to avoid. My screens have 1920x1080 pixels and so does the source for a reason. Of course there are benefits, not least increased potential brightness. For me though, they don't outweigh the negative. How about this? http://www.prismasonic.com/english/index.shtml |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 |  Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have no doubt that it's a nice setup, but it still uses digital scaling. Maybe it's the programmer in me but I have an (irrational?) aversion to digital scaling. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here, Ken. Get your butt kicked.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,774 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
If you missed the sarcasm in my post, scroll down to the end.  I'm firmly in the camp of leaving the OAR alone.
Yep, the masking system works quite well, although the projector w/50,000:1 contrast (native, not dynamic), and a very dark room combine to make some very very dark gray bars. The masking system eliminates them entirely.
On the topic of constant height setup (assuming an anamorphic projector system), I honestly don't see the draw. The digital scaling that goes along with them is something I try to avoid. My screens have 1920x1080 pixels and so does the source for a reason. Of course there are benefits, not least increased potential brightness. For me though, they don't outweigh the negative. Forum Moderator: Please remember Ken to stay on topic, please.  Just kidding...  |
| | Registered: March 11, 2009 | | Posts: 211 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
I haven't had a chance to try those - I'm afraid I'll want them and anytime you start multiplying by seats it gets pricey quick! Forum Moderator: Back on topic, please. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | ROFLMAO | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
If you missed the sarcasm in my post, scroll down to the end. I'm firmly in the camp of leaving the OAR alone.
Yep, the masking system works quite well, although the projector w/50,000:1 contrast (native, not dynamic), and a very dark room combine to make some very very dark gray bars. The masking system eliminates them entirely.
On the topic of constant height setup (assuming an anamorphic projector system), I honestly don't see the draw. The digital scaling that goes along with them is something I try to avoid. My screens have 1920x1080 pixels and so does the source for a reason. Of course there are benefits, not least increased potential brightness. For me though, they don't outweigh the negative. The choice of constant height is, of course, a personal preference. Yes, it definitely adds complexity, but for me it's well worth it. I happen to feel that 2.35:1 is the AR of choice for movies, providing the most satisfying experience. Therefore, I want my screen to be fully utilized for that experience, and then narrow the screen width for other formats rather than decrease the height for 2.35 movies. Different stroke for different folks.  | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's not the complexity or cost, it's that danged digital scaling. To me it always looks soft, but I realize many people find it an overall superior display. I sure wouldn't mind the brightness, especially with the change to 3D threatening to steal half! | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken:
Wait on 3D. I am going to check out the Panasonic Road Trip, but there are issues there, that have nothing to do with technology. If you want more I'll tell you in PM. It's gonna be ugly.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
It's not the complexity or cost, it's that danged digital scaling. To me it always looks soft, but I realize many people find it an overall superior display. I sure wouldn't mind the brightness, especially with the change to 3D threatening to steal half! I've never really noticed this, but then I am not as "critical" as many of my home theater colleagues, who sometimes seem to relish in finding some minor imperfection in any display, no matter how gorgeous (not talking about you here, Ken). I'll have to arrange for a side-by-side comparison for our next HT Group meeting to see if I can discern this issue. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It just occurred to me . I think we have a display of MPD. We could watch Ken do his own Abbott and Costello routine.  Oh, I'm a baaaaaaaaaaad boy. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,918 |
| | Posted: | | | | Digital scaling is going to lose quality no matter what method you use. When you add squares to a grid of squares and then fill them in based on the squares around it or remove squares and average the color, you're gonna get blurry. They probably work around that by sharpening up the picture but in the end, you still lose quality.
So I'm also in the DON'T FRAK WITH THE FORMAT camp.
It took a long, long time to quit adjusting the aspect ratio when I visit my parents and their recently acquired HDTV. Still makes me itch though. | | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
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