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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,796 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with much has been said, but I think US film and especially TV series have too much management involvement.
Amazon's Deal of the Day, Twin Peaks is a good example, management got involved the creators left and the series went down hill.
Soon or later network management wants the leads to hit the sack and the series just relations in the work place in real life cause problems in the long run.
Cracker is an other example of a US remake of a UK series that was a real loser.
I like Canada's Cold Squad better than US Cold Case. I like both of the leads but...
Maybe US PC (Political;y Correct) or pansy chat as I call it is the problem. Brilliant but Cancelled, UPC 025193031228: Crime Dramas, (Johnny Staccato, Delvecchio, Gideon Oliver, Touching Evil (2004)) Brilliant But Cancelled UPC 025193012821: EZ Streets, too gritty. and one of my favorites, Millennium (1996-1998) too gritty. I have a number of UK and Canadian crime drams series and the number of episodes are usually about half of the US series per season. I heard interviews which a number of actors have stated that the production is too hurried. some of the series on Showtime, HBO, cabole have fewer episodes per season and usually better.
Some say that there is only a certain number of plots of which there appears to be no agreement as to what they are. So that leaves the development of the characters and there situations that make the difference. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln | | | Last edited: by Srehtims |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote: I agree with much has been said, but I think US film and especially TV series have too much management involvement.
Amazon's Deal of the Day, Twin Peaks is a good example, management got involved the creators left and the series went down hill.
Soon or later network management wants the leads to hit the sack and the series just relations in the work place in real life cause problems in the long run.
Cracker is an other example of a US remake of a UK series that was a real loser.
I like Canada's Cold Squad better than US Cold Case. I like both of the leads but...
Maybe US PC (Political;y Correct) or pansy chat as I call it is the problem. Brilliant but Cancelled, UPC 025193031228: Crime Dramas, (Johnny Staccato, Delvecchio, Gideon Oliver, Touching Evil (2004)) Brilliant But Cancelled UPC 025193012821: EZ Streets, too gritty. and one of my favorites, Millennium (1996-1998) too gritty. I have a number of UK and Canadian crime drams series and the number of episodes are usually about half of the US series per season. I heard interviews which a number of actors have stated that the production is too hurried. some of the series on Showtime, HBO, cabole have fewer episodes per season and usually better.
Some say that there is only a certain number of plots of which there appears to be no agreement as to what they are. So that leaves the development of the characters and there situations that make the difference. If you like crime from this part of the world. You might enjoy this obscure little gem of TV show that ran for one series. You could argue it's a little dated but it's still enjoyable. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: Laugh all you want but the author of the book, John Ajvide Lindqvist, seems to agree with King's opinion. Yes, I continue laughing. Have you ever heard about promotion? So, you are saying that the author of the book, and the original screenplay, is a liar? Why would he lie? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: Laugh all you want but the author of the book, John Ajvide Lindqvist, seems to agree with King's opinion. Yes, I continue laughing. Have you ever heard about promotion? Lets assume that it is the best US horror film in 20 years. The only thing that it tells us is how poor state US horror genre has been for last 20 years. If I'd like to see a good horror film made for example in this decade, I would see films from Spain, France, Mexico, UK, Australia, Canada, Sweden and so on. I cannot remember any really good horror film from the US for a long time. There has been some relative good though. One thing i have never gotten about Americans is there god awful fascination with terrible horror films. | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,796 |
| Posted: | | | | THX, FilmAlba, Looks good, I've already got. Johnny Staccato is available UPC 011301652454, I'll contribute it. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln | | | Last edited: by Srehtims |
| Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,299 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: America has two types of TV...regular, over the air, broadcast TV and Cable, have to pay for the service, TV. The former has strict standards as to what is and isn't acceptable. The latter, does not...you can't show hardcore porn, but other than that, just about anything else goes. Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: I can tell you that we aren't as prudish as some people seem to think we are. While I don't know exactly how prudish some people seem to think you are, the fact that the FCC exist at all and that their rules are tolerated points to a pretty high level of prudishness. Exhibit A has got to be Janet Jackson and the Super Bowl. | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS! Dolly's not alone. You can also clone profiles. You've got questions? You've got answers? Take the DVD Profiler Wiki for a spin. |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote: THX, FilmAlba, Looks good, I'll add to my collection. Johnny Staccato is available UPC 011301652454, I'll contribute it. By any chance have you seen Jonathan Creek or Murder In Mind? | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,796 |
| Posted: | | | | Got Jonathan Creek. Murder In Mind doesn't seem available in US, I'll have to check my new Oppo for region code fix | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: So, you are saying that the author of the book, and the original screenplay, is a liar No, but because I'm over 10 I don't believe everything I read from the internet. What's your opinion, did Mark Wahlberlg lie during the The Happening promotional tour or is he lying now? http://www.flixist.com/mark-wahlberg-finally-admits-the-obvious-the-happening-blew Quote: Why would he lie? Eh, he's promoting the movie Should he say "Don't go see this utter crap that I wrote"? |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote: Got Jonathan Creek. Murder In Mind doesn't seem available in US, I'll have to check my new Oppo for region code fix Amazon UK has the complete collection of all 3 series for 22.99 pounds which comes to 35.45 dollars. All the episodes are on youtube so can sample it before making a decision. Always loved the intro |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,796 |
| Posted: | | | | Astrakan, when I was working in Canada, a few decades ago, the deal was after 9:00 PM on TV anything went. They figured the kids should be in bed, Is that still the case? In the US the TV is the baby sitter that and the moral majority I think attributes to our prudishness. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote: Astrakan, when I was working in Canada, a few decades ago, the deal was after 9:00 PM on TV anything went. They figured the kids should be in bed, Is that still the case? In the US the TV is the baby sitter that and the moral majority I think attributes to our prudishness. You mean they don't have a watershed hour in the US? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: While I don't know exactly how prudish some people seem to think you are, the fact that the FCC exist at all and that their rules are tolerated points to a pretty high level of prudishness. Exhibit A has got to be Janet Jackson and the Super Bowl. This points to the over protective nature, of our country, when it comes to what children are allowed to see, not the prudishness. If we had a pretty high level of prudishness, cable TV would not exist | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Quoting Astrakan:
Quote: While I don't know exactly how prudish some people seem to think you are, the fact that the FCC exist at all and that their rules are tolerated points to a pretty high level of prudishness. Exhibit A has got to be Janet Jackson and the Super Bowl. This points to the over protective nature, of our country, when it comes to what children are allowed to see, not the prudishness. If we had a pretty high level of prudishness, cable TV would not exist Yeah and if you where so concenred with protecting your children you would not have Wendy's |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: So, you are saying that the author of the book, and the original screenplay, is a liar No, but because I'm over 10 I don't believe everything I read from the internet. Wait, you aren't calling him a liar, but you don't believe what he wrote. I am sorry but, isn't that the same thing? Quote: What's your opinion, did Mark Wahlberlg lie during the The Happening promotional tour or is he lying now? http://www.flixist.com/mark-wahlberg-finally-admits-the-obvious-the-happening-blew I didn't see any of his promotional tour, so can't tell you whether or not he was lying then or not. Quote:
Quote: Why would he lie? Eh, he's promoting the movie Wait, I thought you said you weren't calling him a liar? Which is it? Quote: Should he say "Don't go see this utter crap that I wrote"? You're acting like that has never happened. You are also acting like he only had two choices, praise the film as being great, or call it utter crap. He had several other choices...he could have said it was good, said it was decent, or not commented at all. But he didn't. Instead, he went over the top, stating that it was a "great American movie" and that it made him cry. He went on to say that it was "a beautiful piece of cinema." As I said, I will take his word for it, but that has nothing to do with being over 10 and believing everything I read on the internet. Instead, it has to do with having an open mind and no preconceived notion that American remakes suck. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Wait, you aren't calling him a liar, but you don't believe what he wrote. I am sorry but, isn't that the same thing?
I'm saying that when his marketing the product it doesn't matter what he really thinks. Maybe he loved the film, maybe he hated it, eatherway he would have said the same thing. IT'S MARKETING! | | | Last edited: by Kulju |
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