Quoting Repter:

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If it's a single Digipak-book/foldout or multidisc-keepcase, I think his rule still applies. This means that the majority of voters have it correct.

So you would not say, that a fold-out digipak is "one inner case"...?

That is the only part I am concerned about myself, other than that I like Ken's approach a lot.

I think I earlier also said that Slip Case should always be used when present, but I withdraw that now for single-film releases.

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Now I understand the sentence...
Color me confused, but I don't understand why the parent profile for Alien Quadrilogy should have a different case type that the parent for The Godfather DVD Collection. Maybe someone can explain, other than saying "it's always been done that way".

So what you are saying is, that we have replaced one confusion with another? Thanks for your honest reply though.

Maybe T!M has a way to explain my question to me.

Quoting ya_shin:

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So what you are saying is, that we have replaced one confusion with another? Thanks for your honest reply though.

Maybe T!M has a way to explain my question to me.

I'm certainly willing to try - what's your question exactly? Is it this:

Quoting ya_shin:

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Color me confused, but I don't understand why the parent profile for Alien Quadrilogy should have a different case type that the parent for The Godfather DVD Collection. Maybe someone can explain, other than saying "it's always been done that way".

I don't own either set; to be absolutely sure I'd need pictures, or at least an accurate description. But I can make a pretty good guess, I think. From what I read, I can only gather that the 'Godfather' set consists of multiple discs which are separately packaged in some kind of slip cover - IMHO, that's the exact definition of the term "box set" as we've always used it (at least: that's what I've always used). The name change from "box set" to "slip case" doesn't change the definition: "slip case" is to be used for sets that contain multiple, separately packaged discs.

The 'Alien Quadrilogy' is, as I understand, in a digipak. Sure, it has a slipcase around it, but as numerous people have argued time and time again: over 90% of all "digipaks" come in a slip case - one could even argue that's it is, in many cases, an integral part of what a "digipak" is. If we use the "slip case" case type for both keepcases-in-slipcovers, digipaks-in-slipcovers, snappers-in-slipcovers (I'm sure I've seen one) and so on, we lose quite a bit of valuable data. Throwing all these wildly different beasts together under the "slip case" heading is something that doesn't make sense to the vast majority of users. Instead of getting more different case types to choose from, throwing all these together would actually result in less information: the term "slip case" wouldn't tell you anything anything anymore. If we did what you want, the case type "slip case" could mean basically anything: it could mean a set of movies separately packaged in a slipcase, it could mean a single movie in a single keepcase in a slipcase, it could mean a multi-disc TV-set in a digipack with a slipcase,... and so on. Basically: it could mean anything, and therefore it doesn't give us any information. With a change like that, the "case type" field would lose much of its use for me.

Ken's clarification keeps things sane, IMHO. While the name "box set" is changed to "slip case" (mainly to prevent people using the field to flag a profile as profile type "box set") the definition doesn't change: it is to be used for a slip cover containing multiple, separately packaged discs. A digipak remains a digipak, regardless of whether it comes in a "slip case" (as most do), a "slip cover", or without one. If a set is packaged in a digipak, than that's what you use as case type. If it's packaged as multiple keepcases, snappers or even digipacks in a slipcover then you call the parent a "box set" (old name) / "slip cover" (new name).

Edit: much of the confusion still stems from the fact that some of you somehow still regard the case type as saying something about the type of profile. You have difficulty understanding why the 'Alien Quadrilogy' would have a different case type then the 'Godfather' set - why would you find this illogical? It's purely a choice of the DVD distributor... Why do you feel that it would be more logical if they had the same case type? Please answer me that? I can only imagine that that is because you feel they're both "box sets" - but then you'd be talking about profile types again, not case types. The bottom line is that the 'Godfather' set and the 'Alien' set are packaged in wildly different ways - why would you want to lump two completely different kinds of packaging together under ONE case type?

Hi T!M, thanks for trying. Out of three explanatory paragraphs only the second manages to present something that I may buy into.

The first one is presenting why you think you are losing information, while the information you'd be looking for is still readily available in the child profiles; so in fact nothing would be lost.

The third paragraph is (no I am not mixing up profile type and case type) is doing the same as the first, just in a slightly different approach. I "feel that it would be more logical if they had the same case type" because then I would know that both sets are held together by a Slip Case rather than a metal box or what not. The parent profile, the "container" is now getting blurred, as for one parent profile I use the case type of the children and for the other I use the the actual box the container represent.

The second paragraph is only somewhat convincing, as it adds a definition which, if added to the rules, will force me to do it a certain way; I would still not see a logic.


As I pointed out, I do understand that we should not profile single films in Slip cases as such. I still believe that we should have multiple films handled differently and be able to have the parent profile (the "container" for the child profile) to have the case type it represent (the "container" of the disc case(s), hence the Slip Case).

Hmmm, that point is taken.

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As I pointed out, I do understand that we should not profile single films in Slip cases as such. I still believe that we should have multiple films handled differently and be able to have the parent profile (the "container" for the child profile) to have the case type it represent (the "container" of the disc case(s), hence the Slip Case).

What I don't understand, is that people see a difference between a single title in one digipak inside a slip case and several titles in one digipak inside a slip case. The only difference I can see is the profile type (the one with several titles has child profiles). The case type is, in my opinion, the exact same.

The only explanation I can think of is that they confuse the it with the profile type, but if there is another explanation, please share it with me.

Quoting Unicus69:

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Thanks reybr.  Another good example of what they are talking about.

Sorry Rifter, but you have hitched your buggy to the wrong horse. 

Well, good grief, who can tell what's what trying to keep track of all this BS, when people aren't even using the same damn terminology.

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Well, good grief, who can tell what's what trying to keep track of all this BS, when people aren't even using the same damn terminology.

Maybe it would be a good idea to read through the entire thread before you answered? Especially when you called people fools and it was you that were wrong