I don't post very much, but I always read them. I have not always seen eye to eye with Skip on some things, But he has always been very helpfull in many ways. Like when I first got started with DVDP back at Intervocative in his own some what gruff way helped me become a better contriutor to this Database. Skip if your still monitoring this thread, Please come back. Your insight will and is missed by quite a few people.

Rory

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Edit: Please don't get me wrong here.  I am not trying to bash Skip.  I am simply giving the other side of the coin.  While I can see why it could happen, I didn't want it to. 

sadly by the looks of it, skip left us

Why on earth do you persist in nagging about a users descision to do whatever?!?! Let people run their own course, and use your energy to improve the database instead! This thread is idiotic, to say the least! Whether you like Skip or not - his descision is his own, and not for us to debate!   

Just one question, if this post is idiotic, then why are you reading and posting to it?

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I know your writing is not very good but to make a thread that is teetering on gloating about another member of our community's destruction is wrong.  I know I am going to get a ton of negative feedback, but I do not care.  Was skip crass? ABSOLUTELY!  Did he contribute to our community more positively than negatively?  ABSOLUTELY!  Look through the database sometime and see how many contributions he made.  You will find a lot.  I opposed the rating system from day one as I knew a person or persons on here would band together and go after people they had personality conflicts with.  To those of you congrats, move on to your next target.  To Ken please remove the reputation system and get us some moderators.

I disagree.  If you count the contributions that would have been made by the users he chased away, he's way in the negative.  A community needs to be newbie friendly to go anywhere.  Compare even the contribution help board on the notoriously abusive IMBD forums with here and you'll understand why I went away for two years, came back and found that it was the exact same twenty or so people on the site with apaprently almost no new members gained.

You know, I am starting to see a pattern here.  More than one person seems to believe that Skip is scaring customers away.  Now I know that in a case or two this is true.  If he was scaring as many people as some claim Ken would have to close up because there would be no money in it.  Also, I would rather Skip scares off some of the more inept people who jump on here and use this a platform for things that do not matter or questions which have been asked 100 times.  I can remember a certain argument about the headshot database.  Where he was 100% right but someone pushed and pushed with incorrect info until Ken stepped in.  I can remember 50 post about can I get a CD or game profiler.  I have seen Skip be a jerk, to me included.  However, I have seen him take things with with tact and grace as well, sort of like he has taken this whole topic.

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You know, I am starting to see a pattern here.  More than one person seems to believe that Skip is scaring customers away.  Now I know that in a case or two this is true.  If he was scaring as many people as some claim Ken would have to close up because there would be no money in it.

You are seeing a pattern, because it is a fact.  If we go bact to the IVS days, quite a few people have left because of Skip...Ace was one of them.  A lot of the 'old timers' will tell you the same thing.  I could name names, but there really isn't any point.  Now, is it Skip's fault that they left?  Of course not.  Each person made that decision on their own.  They decided, on their own, that they didn't want to be treated the way he was treating them.

Btw, it isn't customers, it is forum users and potential contributors that have been 'scared away'.  Just a slight difference.

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Also, I would rather Skip scares off some of the more inept people who jump on here and use this a platform for things that do not matter or questions which have been asked 100 times.

I would prefer that nobody be scared off.  The fact that you think they are inept doesn't mean they deserve to be treated badly.  Everybody, even the ones who ask the question that has been asked 100 times, deserves to be treated with common courtesy.

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I can remember a certain argument about the headshot database.  Where he was 100% right but someone pushed and pushed with incorrect info until Ken stepped in.

I was that someone and Skip is 100% wrong.  Just because Ken agreed with him doesn't make him correct.  I checked with several lawyers on the issue, for unrelated professional reasons, and they all said the same thing.  I have a pretty good idea as to why Ken made that statement, but that is a conversation for another time.

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I can remember 50 post about can I get a CD or game profiler.  I have seen Skip be a jerk, to me included.  However, I have seen him take things with with tact and grace as well, sort of like he has taken this whole topic.

Nobody said Skip was all bad, quite the contrary, almost everybody has admitted that he does contribute some good things.  But, for a lot of them, those good things do not mitigate him being a 'jerk'...your word, not mine. 

If you want to look past that behavior, that is your right.  Just don't expect everyone to do the same.  It isn't going to happen.

On a personal level, I hate to see anybody leave...Skip included.  But we all have to make our own choices.

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It would take very little time to do some research on this forum to come to the conclusion that other than the Blu ray thread, almost without exception every thread that ever got locked by Ken or Gerri, or became a mud-slinging contest had Skip right in the middle of it.  I don't believe you could say that about any other single user.  Yes, many of the same users (including me) were also involved in many of those threads, but Skip was involved in virtually all of them.

I think the core reason for that is because he posts more and participates in more threads then anyone else.

I personally think skip not posting will be a bad thing. I dont have much of the same DVD's skip does, being from the R2 land and all. But since i registered here, skip has done nothing but helped me. Whenever i needed to know something, i knew i could just PM him and would always get advice. I dont agree with everything he says, especially when it comes to politics But these disagreements have never caused him to call names or anything else. If you try to provocate someone, dont be suprised if he'll be provoced.

Out of line and totally unacceptable comment and precisely the kind of abusive comments I am subjected toby moire than just you, Yves. But then you cry about it if I choose to respond in kind.

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From my point of view, I am treated far worse and put up with more stuff than I have ever given to ANY uiser.

If that is true - and I'm not saying that it is - did you ever stop to wonder why this is happening? If so many people here are jerks, why are they only targeting you, Skip?

Did you ever stop to think "Hm, maybe I'm part of the problem"?