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Apologies to Surfeur51 (Reputation System Abuse)
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkahless
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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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Don't worry guys, Ken already said he would take appropriate action if necessary.

By the way I can not imagine how anyone could abuse the system, because no one really knows what impact his/her negative votes might have, only Ken does.


Well, but indeed negative votes (justified or not) will never have a positive impact anyway. I'm pretty sure, that Ken or Gerri do not have the resources to evaluate every single negative vote. So most likely some unjustified negative votes will not be removed and therefore will have a negative impact.
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Quoting kahless:
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I'm pretty sure, that Ken or Gerri do not have the resources to evaluate every single negative vote.

Single negative votes have less (or maybe non if somebody abuses the system regularly) impact on a user's reputation, only multiple ones do and those are easier to spot.
Martin Zuidervliet

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Quoting kahless:
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I'm pretty sure, that Ken or Gerri do not have the resources to evaluate every single negative vote.

Single negative votes have less (or maybe non if somebody abuses the system regularly) impact on a user's reputation, only multiple ones do and those are easier to spot.


I see!

BTW: nice to see your star again! 
Thorsten
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Sorry Yves,
I didn't want to name you, but since you came into this thread playing victim I think I'll publish a few quotations.
May the forum decide if I got you wrong.

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So I gave a good mark for MrBurns, and a bad for you... I think you support the wrong man.

Quoting surfeur51
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Everyone who posts in this thread sending flowers to that nasty guy just seeks positive notes, and a few negatives ones can't be bad

Quoting surfeur51
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You told me that you don't support Skip, but in this thread that begins to take a correct turn, you are still the one that tries to defend the indefensible. The tone you use is clearly friendly to Skip and those who "kiss his ass", and clearly agressive to the others, from your first post on this thread to the last. That is very offending for all those who suffered from the writings of this nasty man.
(...)
No red arrow for you that time (...)


EDIT: This "that time" for me clearly implies that next time there will.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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I hardly understand. I send you the following post on february 12.

You posted this thread on Februaryb 13.

Where is any blackmail? Where is any threat?


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The threat wasn't in your last posting, it was clearly brought out in the postings you wisely didn't show.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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The threat wasn't in your last posting, it was clearly brought out in the postings you wisely didn't show.


There was no thread, and even if you thought there were, why wait after my last post, which seems rather friendly, to post this thread. I really thought there was somebody else.

For people who want to know the whole story, goblinsdoitall should have quoted all my posts and not only parts:

You'll note that I do not publish goblinsdoitall's posts, he can do it if he wants, things will be much clearer...

February 10:

Quoting surfeur51:
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I send you the negative note.

I didn't explain it on the forum for one reason : I already wrote I wouldn't post anymore in those forums, since Skip made all he could for that. I'll not change my mind as he did.

Why did I quit : Skip compared me with the régime of Vichy. If you do not know exactly what that means, this régime was connected with nazis during WW2, and sent thousands of people to gas chambers. I think that "fascist bastard" is a light insult face to "régime of Vichy".

When some german posters (not YOU...) asked Skip to apologize , he just said it was what he meant...  and I even got recently bad marks when I remembered that on the forum.

So I gave a good mark for MrBurns, and a bad for you... I think you support the wrong man.

PS : I don't mind if you mention that in the forum. I hope you'll be honest enough to tell what you think of treating somebody of Vichy, nazi or gestapo...


February 10,

Quoting Surfeur51:
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I removed your negative note. But as you knew about Skip, I hardly understand that you can support him. He is the main reason of all the problems of those forums...

Everyone who posts in this thread sending flowers to that nasty guy just seeks positive notes, and a few negatives ones can't be bad

Have a nice day

Yves



February 10
Quoting Surfeur51:
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Before hiding behind my database, I tried to make things improve. I'm not against the rules, I'm against a strict application of them, even when it is out of common sense. I see dvdprofiler dying in France (titles as 300, Fur, Death Proof, Summer Palace,  Spider-man 3 or the last Harry Potter have not been contributed, though two years ago, such titles were contributed the day they were released) and I wanted to alert. Before being called Vichy (and gestapo by Rifter), I was called a whiner dozens of times by Skip for whom I'm the evil since I wanted to "destroy" his database. This is totally ridiculous.

You write 40% of useful posts from him, I hardly remember more than 5 or 6, which means 0.1%. He made fly away many newbies with his sarcasms or even insults.

I had hope he would really quit, though I was used with his blatant lies. As he came back, forums will continue to stink awfully, and I'll certainly not come back...

Yves


February 12

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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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as I wrote, from my point of view I didn't support Skip...



Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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To be correct it is about 2 pages kissing ass and 4 pages kicking ass!   

EDIT: Not to forget 1 page from people trying to bring forum rules back into minds.



You told me that you don't support Skip, but in this thread that begins to take a correct turn, you are still the one that tries to defend the indefensible. The tone you use is clearly friendly to Skip and those who "kiss his ass", and clearly agressive to the others, from your first post on this thread to the last. That is very offending for all those who suffered from the writings of this nasty man.

As for bringing forum rules in mind, I quoted the part Ken should apply immediately :

"Bannable" offenses include, but are not limited to, the following list of activities.  Users that are banned will be permanently prohibited from posting.  In severe cases, there will be no warnings for first time offenses.  There is no appeal process once banned.

    * Transmitting illegal, patently obscene, hateful, or racially derogatory content

Treating somebody of war criminal is illegal (at least in France), and hateful...

You didn't remind the rules at that time...

PS No red arrow for you that time    but I don't think I was wrong about the reputation system to give three green ones to Chibul...



Then you have the post I already sent
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I understood your "friendly post" as petting the dog after kicking it.

It took me about a day to
a) realize what you actually wrote and decide how to handle this.
b) recheck at other users if they would handle this the same.

so that explains the "delay".

So again, we've both spread our cards, let the forum decide.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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And everybody should read this thread to see how "nice" some of us can be.
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How old are you?

Seems to me like being in a Kindergarten.

This is about DVD Profiler, collecting and profiling DVD's. Please leave personal attacks out of here.

Edited to make what I actually wanted to say clearer.
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Edited by kahless due to possible slightly offending content!
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Edit.
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Oh please Martin leave that topic out of this thread... I think everyone knows that topic

and to sugarjoe I think `General Discussion` may be used any way an user on this forum seems to want use it. According to what you write the whole HD DVD vs. Blu-ray debate and other topics should be 'closed' as well.
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Quoting kahless:
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Thanks for the negative vote 


You actually got a negative vote on your reply????????????????

I'll give a green arrow to compensate
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I'll give a green arrow to compensate


Did so too.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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EDIT: This "that time" for me clearly implies that next time there will.


That time meant only "that time". I had send one negative vote on a first post, and I realised it was the end of the world for you. So, after I removed it, I made you remark that, even if I thought you were still supporting Skip, I had not sent you any negative note that time...

If you were not sure, wasn't more efficient to ask me by PM instead of making all this fuss for nothing ?? And I remember you that you spoke of blackmail after a post that cannot be more friendly...

Once again, I assume all what I said about Skip, which is not friendly, but I explained why, but I never wrote anything about you that should have let to this drama.
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