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The Journal's recent misleading and inaccurate editorial on my relationship with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac leaves out one central fact, and it does so in a very revealing fashion ("Fannie Mae's Patron Saint," Sept. 9).

At the bottom of the first column of the editorial, the Journal begins by saying that "By early 2007, Mr. Frank was in charge of the House Financial Services Committee, arguing that he had long favored some kind of reform." A reader unfamiliar with the facts would have no idea that I did not simply argue in favor of reform, but presided over passage of a very tough reform bill.

When the Democrats obtained the majority in the 2006 election, and I became chair of the committee, I made a very strong reform bill one of our highest priorities and worked closely with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to break the logjam that hindered the bill in the past. As a result, the Financial Services Committee, which organized under the Democrats on Jan. 31, 2007, passed the bill restructuring the regulation of Fannie and Freddie, specifically including all the increased powers that the Bush administration requested on March 28, 2007. The full House followed, by a vote of 313 to 104 in early May. The House passed these important reforms in May 2007, only four months after we became the majority. It is true that the bill was held up for over a year by inaction in the Senate, but that is not surprising given the difficulty the Senate has moving controversial legislation on any subject.

Additionally, when we were considering the stimulus package in early 2008, I proposed to Mr. Paulson that in addition to raising the jumbo loan limits for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, we include the GSE reform that the House had passed. He did not agree, fearing that it might slow things down.

In fact, my reform efforts had begun when we were still in the minority. In 2005, I joined Michael Oxley, then chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, in supporting legislation to increase the regulation of Fannie and Freddie that passed the House by a vote of 330 to 90. When former Congressman Richard Baker proposed to examine the compensation structure of Fannie and Freddie's top executives, and some members of Congress tried to block him, I explicitly spoke out in support of his right to do that and our right, as a Congress, to examine the GSE's compensation practices.

There is another glaring distortion in the editorial, driven by the Journal's opposition to our efforts to help build affordable rental housing. The editorial laments the fact that as part of the ultimate package I received my "biggest payoff" in the Affordable Housing Trust Fund. While that is true, I am struck by the Journal's absolute inability to understand that some of us think that the plight of people who do not have adequate rental housing ought to be addressed. The bizarre belief that adequate housing means home ownership and not rental housing was one of the push factors in the subprime crisis. That is apparently the basis for assuming that the only reason we would support an affordable housing program -- along with such nonpartisan groups as Catholic and Lutheran Churches, Habitat for Humanity, and Enterprise Community Partners -- was so that we could personally profit from this politically. The truth is that the way this fund will be created, members of Congress will have no say over its disbursements. To the right-wing ideologues who write the Journal's editorials, funding to build affordable residential housing is "loot." Fortunately, that is a distinctly minority opinion in the Congress and in much of the country.

I acknowledge differences between myself and the Journal as to whether or not we should be trying to build affordable rental housing and as to whether or not some public role in housing finance is worth supporting. But the Journal's assertion that support for those two entities meant opposition to reform is entirely wrong, and it is presented in one of the most dishonest pieces of journalism I have seen. The Journal's error concerning what happened when the Democrats took over the majority early in 2007 is a classic example of ideological bias. It is important to repeat that the editorial omits the key point, that it was exactly in that period that the House Financial Services Committee, that I chair, passed and helped pass through the House a bill that embodied the reforms asked for by the Bush administration, and that was the basis for Secretary Paulson's and FHFA Director James Lockhart's recent actions. Your readers deserve the whole story.

Rep. Barney Frank (D., Mass.)
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The Journal's recent misleading and inaccurate editorial on my relationship with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac leaves out one central fact, and it does so in a very revealing fashion ("Fannie Mae's Patron Saint," Sept. 9).

At the bottom of the first column of the editorial, the Journal begins by saying that "By early 2007, Mr. Frank was in charge of the House Financial Services Committee, arguing that he had long favored some kind of reform." A reader unfamiliar with the facts would have no idea that I did not simply argue in favor of reform, but presided over passage of a very tough reform bill.

When the Democrats obtained the majority in the 2006 election, and I became chair of the committee, I made a very strong reform bill one of our highest priorities and worked closely with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to break the logjam that hindered the bill in the past. As a result, the Financial Services Committee, which organized under the Democrats on Jan. 31, 2007, passed the bill restructuring the regulation of Fannie and Freddie, specifically including all the increased powers that the Bush administration requested on March 28, 2007. The full House followed, by a vote of 313 to 104 in early May. The House passed these important reforms in May 2007, only four months after we became the majority. It is true that the bill was held up for over a year by inaction in the Senate, but that is not surprising given the difficulty the Senate has moving controversial legislation on any subject.

Additionally, when we were considering the stimulus package in early 2008, I proposed to Mr. Paulson that in addition to raising the jumbo loan limits for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, we include the GSE reform that the House had passed. He did not agree, fearing that it might slow things down.

In fact, my reform efforts had begun when we were still in the minority. In 2005, I joined Michael Oxley, then chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, in supporting legislation to increase the regulation of Fannie and Freddie that passed the House by a vote of 330 to 90. When former Congressman Richard Baker proposed to examine the compensation structure of Fannie and Freddie's top executives, and some members of Congress tried to block him, I explicitly spoke out in support of his right to do that and our right, as a Congress, to examine the GSE's compensation practices.

There is another glaring distortion in the editorial, driven by the Journal's opposition to our efforts to help build affordable rental housing. The editorial laments the fact that as part of the ultimate package I received my "biggest payoff" in the Affordable Housing Trust Fund. While that is true, I am struck by the Journal's absolute inability to understand that some of us think that the plight of people who do not have adequate rental housing ought to be addressed. The bizarre belief that adequate housing means home ownership and not rental housing was one of the push factors in the subprime crisis. That is apparently the basis for assuming that the only reason we would support an affordable housing program -- along with such nonpartisan groups as Catholic and Lutheran Churches, Habitat for Humanity, and Enterprise Community Partners -- was so that we could personally profit from this politically. The truth is that the way this fund will be created, members of Congress will have no say over its disbursements. To the right-wing ideologues who write the Journal's editorials, funding to build affordable residential housing is "loot." Fortunately, that is a distinctly minority opinion in the Congress and in much of the country.

I acknowledge differences between myself and the Journal as to whether or not we should be trying to build affordable rental housing and as to whether or not some public role in housing finance is worth supporting. But the Journal's assertion that support for those two entities meant opposition to reform is entirely wrong, and it is presented in one of the most dishonest pieces of journalism I have seen. The Journal's error concerning what happened when the Democrats took over the majority early in 2007 is a classic example of ideological bias. It is important to repeat that the editorial omits the key point, that it was exactly in that period that the House Financial Services Committee, that I chair, passed and helped pass through the House a bill that embodied the reforms asked for by the Bush administration, and that was the basis for Secretary Paulson's and FHFA Director James Lockhart's recent actions. Your readers deserve the whole story.

Rep. Barney Frank (D., Mass.)



Barney Frank is a liar.  He has been caught numerous times in the past twisting the facts to cover his own ass.  There are a lot of people pointing the finger at him and at Chuck Schumer and Chris Dodd as the major facilitators of this mess, and they aren't all Republicans.
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Hi Rifter,

You seem to be leading the lynch mob, can we wait to string him up till the facts are in? WSJ (Wall St Journal) was saying way back in 2002 that Fannie & Freddie were cooking the books. Why didn't the republicans do something then? Many people are to blame for this mess; were not going to improve anything by endlessly, saying such & such is more to blame. What we need to focus on, is the plan to get us out of this mess. Also I've said this before, as well as Brian  no one intentionally wanted this mess to happen & everyone thought what they were doing was for the best.

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Rico:

Are you forgetting the tactics the Democrats utilized to bad effect when they were in the minority, everything they did not approve of they would procedurally filibuster, including Court Justices, effectively requiring a Super Majority to overcome which the republicans never had. And BTW the idea of a Super majority for Court justices would actually be unconstitutional, the issues which require a Super majority are spelled out in the Constitution and Justices are not on that list, a simple majority suffices, except for the BS Filibuster, personally I say if you want to Filibuster, fine....get up and start talking... as long as you can.

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Hi Rifter,

You seem to be leading the lynch mob, can we wait to string him up till the facts are in? WSJ (Wall St Journal) was saying way back in 2002 that Fannie & Freddie were cooking the books. Why didn't the republicans do something then? Many people are to blame for this mess; were not going to improve anything by endlessly, saying such & such is more to blame. What we need to focus on, is the plan to get us out of this mess. Also I've said this before, as well as Brian  no one intentionally wanted this mess to happen & everyone thought what they were doing was for the best.

Take Care
Rico



If you do the research, you'll find that the White House and GOP members of the House tried to get legislation passed that would have prevented Freddie and Fanny from purchasing those junk mortgages.  They were stopped dead in their tracks by Frank, Schumer, and other Dems who were only interested in seeing minorities own their own homes, regardless of whether they qualified for such a loan or not.  They were the major enablers that allowed Fanny and Freddy to operate as they did, which encouraged banks and other institutions right down through the infrastructure to make more such loans and market them in such a way that it compromised many otherwise sound institutions.

I also resent the hell out of everybody saying "there's enough blame to go around" so why worry about who actually caused it.  We've had seven such stock market meltdowns since the Civil War, counting the current one, because nobody has had the balls to step up and prosecute the idiots like Frank and Schumer who make these debacles possible.  Its about time somebody paid the price.
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I also resent the hell out of everybody saying "there's enough blame to go around" so why worry about who actually caused it.  ....................


The root cause of the current problem is as a result of a lack of financial regulation and prudential oversight. This problem has been around in US financial markets long enough that both sides of politics have a degree of culpability.

Combine this with a total addiction on both sides of politics to deficit budgeting practices and you have a recipe for the current situation. The sub-prime mortgage crisis is almost exclusively a US problem. The resultant credit squeeze and liquidity crisis in the banking sector is the world-wide fallout.
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While I agree with Rifter relative to Frank, Schumur and Dodd, among others who were largely responsible in varying degrees for the subprime mess. I also blame Phil Gramm (R) who in 1999 was the author of the bill which became responsible for repealing many of the controls which had been put into place in the wake of the Great Depression and signed by President Clinton. This mess has been decades in the making.

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Hi Guys,

Why is it, that folks want to cherry pick from a post, what they will comment on? If you have a face to face conversation do you get to just ignore part of the conversation?

Rifter - I'm sure if enough evidence can be had, someone will prosecute the law breakers. Rifter your the one who's upset with Frank & Schumer, like if only Rico would open his eyes, he would see, how these people caused all the problems. Yet you expect me to do the investigation, If you have the smoking gun, then post it! Again your trying to convince people, people of something, then it's your obligation, to make the point with proof. Your proof will be more acceptable if you use diverse sources of information.

Skip - Filibuster, super majority, BS filibuster I'm confused here what does this or how did those thing cause economic crisis? Those Dems must be really powerful, even when there a minority, the republicans still can't get anything done.

If laws were broken, & sufficient proof/evidence become available, lawbreakers will be prosecuted. Until then the folks mentioned are presumed?

What happened to 'personal responsibility' in this matter? If I max. out on credit cards & can't pay who's responsible, me or the credit card company for issuing a card to me? I'm responsible you guys sound like you want to blame the credit card company. Blame blame blame. Blame does not solve the problem. Again if a law was broken, & can be proven someone will be prosecuted.

The ignored portion of my post dealt with, intentions of the parties mentioned, and solutions or focus, on how to get out of this mess.

Take Care
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Hi Guys,

Why is it, that folks want to cherry pick from a post, what they will comment on? If you have a face to face conversation do you get to just ignore part of the conversation?

Rifter - I'm sure if enough evidence can be had, someone will prosecute the law breakers. Rifter your the one who's upset with Frank & Schumer, like if only Rico would open his eyes, he would see, how these people caused all the problems. Yet you expect me to do the investigation, If you have the smoking gun, then post it! Again your trying to convince people, people of something, then it's your obligation, to make the point with proof. Your proof will be more acceptable if you use diverse sources of information.

Skip - Filibuster, super majority, BS filibuster I'm confused here what does this or how did those thing cause economic crisis? Those Dems must be really powerful, even when there a minority, the republicans still can't get anything done.

If laws were broken, & sufficient proof/evidence become available, lawbreakers will be prosecuted. Until then the folks mentioned are presumed?

What happened to 'personal responsibility' in this matter? If I max. out on credit cards & can't pay who's responsible, me or the credit card company for issuing a card to me? I'm responsible you guys sound like you want to blame the credit card company. Blame blame blame. Blame does not solve the problem. Again if a law was broken, & can be proven someone will be prosecuted.

The ignored portion of my post dealt with, intentions of the parties mentioned, and solutions or focus, on how to get out of this mess.

Take Care
Rico



OK, let's take your points in order, starting with the first to me:  It isn't a matter of no evidence, it is a matter of nobody standing up to say "enough is enough."  There has been plenty of factual information put out in several documentary type reports that have played over the last two weeks.  I'm certainly not putting out anything that hasn't been previously vetted by investigative reports. The Democrats are not interested in placing blame, despite lip service to the contrary.  Barney Frank has in fact put out a letter that is so full of distortion and outright lies that one has to wonder what planet he was on when all this stuff was going down.  Both Skip and I have said where we got our information, and anybody who wishes to can verify what we've said.  Nobody who is for Obama is going to do that, and that is readily apparent in their rhetoric.

2nd para:  The filibuster is used to prevent the other party from going through the procedural steps of moving a bill through to the floor for a vote.  However, since Reid and Pelosi run the Senate and House, they can get away with merely threatening a filibuster along with some other arm-twisting to get their way.  The GOP doesn't have the votes to prevent it without the help of some Democrats.  In the case of the bill to reregulate Fanny and Freddy and other mortgage banks, Barney Frank's finance subcmte. voted on party lines to prevent the bill from getting out of subcmte, and then further prevented it from getting a chance to allow the whole cmte. to vote on it.  That effectively killed any chance the bill might have had.  That's fact, not supposition.  Some variation on this theme happened every time the GOP/WH tried to rein in this insanity.  Again, facts.

It is also a fact that Democrats, with Frank and Dodd leading the charge, put enormous pressure on Fanny and Freddy and mortgage banks to buy those subprime mortgages by threatening sanctions on them.  (When a sitting senator or congressman tells a bank CEO to play along or they will be ruined, they go along)  There has been testimony to that effect, though very little reporting of it by the mainstream media (big surprise there, eh?).

Finally, just who is going to prosecute these people?  Do you really think the Democrats will go after Frank or Dodd or Schumer?  You can't prosecute the people at the bottom because they were snookered for the most part by the system.  Nor can you prosecute the CEO's who folded under pressure from certain members of Congress.  I guarantee that if Obama wins, this will all be swept under the rug as fast as possible.
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Hi Rifter,

'Enough is enough' - What laws have been broken? Bad decisions were made, with good intentions. We do not, send folks to jail for poor decision making. Regarding factual information, I've missed some of your sources, as well as Skips. Just finding some one who agrees with your political stance, or echos your comments is not fact! This is why I keep saying (to deaf ears)  evidence from both sidesmakes your argument more believable. Example I expect Hannity, Limbaugh etc. to say Obama is a Marxist (goes with the territory), but should Pelosi etc say Obama is a Marxist; I would sit up & pay attention.

Long before Pelosi & company Reps. had a chance to get the job done, they failed. Back in 2002 WSJ reported that Fannie was cooking the books. Why was nothing done then?

Why are you avoiding the 'personal responsibility' & 'solutions' aspects of my post?

Take Care
Rico
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What happened to 'personal responsibility' in this matter? If I max. out on credit cards & can't pay who's responsible, me or the credit card company for issuing a card to me? I'm responsible you guys sound like you want to blame the credit card company. Blame blame blame. Blame does not solve the problem. Again if a law was broken, & can be proven someone will be prosecuted


Before you talk about these kinds of things, you really should do some research.  Using credit card companies, as your example, was a bad choice as they have been forcing people into a vicious cycle of debt for years.  You see, unlike morgage contracts, the credit card company can raise your interest rate on a whim.

I will give you an example.  I had a credit card with a very good interest rate, 5.9%.  I used it when I took my family on vacation.  Because I didn't want to carry that much cash, I used the card...along with another one...to pay for the trip and all expenses on the trip.  When I got back from my trip I had a notice waiting for me statung that the company had raised my interest rate to 25%.

I asked them why and was told that, based on some odd formual, they determined I was a bigger credit risk.  I told her that didn't make any sense as I always payed off my card each month.  I was told that my payment history didn't matter, they could up my interest rate whenever they wanted.

Fortunately, I had money budgeted to pay for the trip so I promptly paid it and cut up the cards.  Many people are not so fortunate.  People who are able to pay down the prinicple at the initial interest rate, are simply paying for interest after the interest hike.

This is not a unique experience...

See here
and here
and here
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Everything here is a matter of p8ublic record, all you have to do is read the Congressional Record. The history that led up to this is very long and goes all the way back to 1932, As for christopher dodd  and your attempts at defense of the Democrats, in his case it is well-known that he received, while serving in Congress and the Banking sub-committee, that he received at least ONE sweetheart mortgage deasl that is not obtainable by the general public, this is a direct violation of Senate ethics and federal law. There have been numerous laws broken by both sides over the years and i don't care who they are, or what party, if you break the law you should be REMOVED from office and prosecuted. There are some members of Congress, known to those of us who have intimate knowledge of DC, who as far as I am concerned should be up on treason charges for actions they have taken and things which have been said, this includes some members of the fifth column (oh, I mean the fourth estate). Unfortunately such actions are not up to me. Instead we watch while Congressmen (Party is not relevant) who get caught with 90,000 in marked money in his FREEZER and he is STILL in office and still feigning innocence....now come on people, I was born at night but i was not born last night...just whom are trying to kid. There is no doubt that when the trial is done this Congressman will be jailed, yet he still serves. I could make some partisan observations about this but i won't.

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Hi Guys,

Unicus - I can see how you would be upset, with the rise in your cards interest rate! I'm glad you took the actions you did, to mitigate more pain. Unfortunately the responsibility was  YOURS & no one else, nobody made you apply for the card, nobody forced you to use it. The decision you made belongs to you & you alone. Ultimately your responsible for everything you do in life, from the food you eat, to the air you breathe, it's your choice, therefore your responsibility.  Therefore I stand by my example! I know after that harsh reality, you will be more skeptical/cautious in the future.

Skip - Uncle you win, all those dirty scoundrel Dems. should be drawn & quartered. You've convinced me, I'm a believer, NOW WHAT! Can we now move on to solving the problem? What's more important Skip assigning BLAME, or getting out of this hole. If everyone in this forum said Skip is correct, & all the people Skip said caused the problem are truly  responsible. Then can we move on to the fix?

Take Care
Rico

PS - I did not take Personal Responsibility & am sick today!
pss - How about the mkt today maybe +1000 points today, the herbivores are running in diff direction.
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LOL, Rico. I can throw more than enough mud at the republicans too. There is one differenec i see in CONTEMPORARY Democrats and Republicans. That is, for example, Obama keeps talking about change,  and keeps looking at and blaming George Bush, psssst george bush isn't running. It is not truly relevant whose fault it is, what is relevant is that we understand the problem, only then can we look to solutions. I haven't seen much of substance from obama, I see platitudes, I see blame game,, I see continual reference to CHANGE (but no definition of what he means, we are electing a NEW president by definition that will bring CHANGE), more importantly to me, I see a man whose character is highly questionable, whom I believe to be less the honest and a man who despite his claims to the contrary is embodiment of politics as usual.

I can see the problems that led to the economic meltdown, but I lack the expertise to come up with an answer. I am certain that Obama will deepen said meltdown and perhaps turn it from a bump in the road to massive pileup.. Wall Street has thouroughl;y confusde, at the moment, well to some degree any way, I have some theories but they are just that theories.

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Before you talk about these kinds of things, you really should do some research.  Using credit card companies, as your example, was a bad choice as they have been forcing people into a vicious cycle of debt for years.  You see, unlike morgage contracts, the credit card company can raise your interest rate on a whim.


Once again, you want to blame the credit card company (like the mortgage companies) for people making bad financial decisions.  Please xplain to me how the credit card company forced people to charge stuff on their credit cards, without the ability to actually pay for it when the bill arrived?

This is the root of the problem, both credit card and foreclosure issues.  People made bad financial choices.  How is it the responsibility of the mortgage company or the the credit card company when people spend more than their income.  I'm sorry, but I will never understand this logic!

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I will give you an example.  I had a credit card with a very good interest rate, 5.9%.  I used it when I took my family on vacation.  Because I didn't want to carry that much cash, I used the card...along with another one...to pay for the trip and all expenses on the trip.  When I got back from my trip I had a notice waiting for me statung that the company had raised my interest rate to 25%.

I asked them why and was told that, based on some odd formual, they determined I was a bigger credit risk.  I told her that didn't make any sense as I always payed off my card each month.  I was told that my payment history didn't matter, they could up my interest rate whenever they wanted.

Fortunately, I had money budgeted to pay for the trip so I promptly paid it and cut up the cards.  Many people are not so fortunate.  People who are able to pay down the prinicple at the initial interest rate, are simply paying for interest after the interest hike.


Congratulations!  You actually had budgeted the money that you needed to take that vacation, and paid for it immediately.

Maybe, if more people did the same, this problem would not have gotten so far out of hand!
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The root cause of the current problem is as a result of a lack of financial regulation and prudential oversight. This problem has been around in US financial markets long enough that both sides of politics have a degree of culpability.

Combine this with a total addiction on both sides of politics to deficit budgeting practices and you have a recipe for the current situation. The sub-prime mortgage crisis is almost exclusively a US problem. The resultant credit squeeze and liquidity crisis in the banking sector is the world-wide fallout.


it's not just a US problem. This is also a UK problem with mortgages being offered to some who would be unable to pay them.
Paul
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