Rico,

What I dismissed primarily was the report and the reporter's conclusions -- you barely here anything from these 3 generals. Do you even know how much direct experience with McCain they base their opinions on (which you only have a bias report to use)? What you do have here suggests they have a bias since they are clearly supporting someone else in the race. I'm sure they are opposed to McCain for various reasons including there feeling that he doesn't have the right temperment for the job. I honor their service and respect their opinion but they are not the only generals around.

His sensitivity about POWS and the 5 years he spent in a POW camp says NOTHING about him being less war minded???? How about it shows he doesn't want to see other Americans end up where he did and suffer the way he did (more than anyone else in this race by far he understands the conseuqences of war) ..... come on Rico ...... it speaks to his demeanor his thoughtfulness - as does his forgiveness of Kerry etc.

However you seem to "trite and trivial" dismiss the fact that McCain's support amongst similarly situated people (high ranking military leaders) is quite strong and perhaps even overwhelming. When you talk to 100 generals & admirals and the vast majority support McCain then my feeling begins to be that the 3 you cite are statistical outliers.

Your position seems to be if even 3 Generals doubt your fitness to lead the US then you are de facto unqualified -- I can assure you that none of the 4 major candidates would have 100% support amongst any group of people so none of the candidates would be qualified. It we go just based on who militar leaders support more than any other McCain wins hands down.

When it comes to drawings broad conclusions about a person a scorecard and by way it is over 100 not 11 if you read the second article gives you a sense of what people in the field have concluded. You have decided (as is your right) based apparently on a 5 minute report from Keith Olberman and a staunchly liberal reporter that McCain is unfit to lead (would you expect any other conclusion?). I have watched the other video you site and it's overwrought nonsense. I could easy edit a video of Obama sounding just as "warlike" and the notion that McCain is committed to using nukes is absurd. Rico this video is classic propaganda - come on your better than that. The bomb Iran thing is a JOKE based on the beach boys song so let's not read more into it than that - plus I have no idea how many times he's made that joke.

I can send you a view Obama videos that should scare you to - plus his complete lack of foreign policy or military experience. I am more skeptical of Obama's judgment and seemingly naive belief in his own propaganda about himself than I am about McCain. The notion that there's some hidden "truth" about McCain's fitness to lead is kind of silly -- the only wanring bells are being rung by liberals with an axe to grind.

If your interested in people crossing party lines -- how about a former Democrat VP candidate, Joe Lieberman expressing doubts about Obama's fitness to lead and ethusiastically endorsing McCain (not to mention Obama's own VP pick Biden only a few months ago and other Democratic candidates).

Brian

Hi Guys,

Brian - Many of the things in your last post I did not say + your intentionally twisting my words. Regarding the 3 generals, I said this should act as a warning to seek out the truth, perhaps those 3, know something that the others are not  willing to speak about. I don't know but it's at least some investigation as to why! Or are you conservatives afraid of investigation & truth. Let's call for these 3 maverick general, to come forward & explain. I get the feeling the truth is not important when it comes to left & right, dems & reps.

As for the 'More Wars' McCain video, was the camera man a dem. so therefore he did not repeatedly say War? Perhaps you fear Obama being president so much, that your willing to overlook things? Brian your entitled to your biased views & opinions; this is getting old, I said I was not 100% sure as to which candidate, I'd vote for. Nothing you've said so far sways me to your side.

Take Care
Rico

Hi Mr Daft,

Don't push me that 00.000000000000001...%

There may be hope! Are you done shoveling already!

Take Care
Rico

I think that a voting record is the most "telling" of what a candidate will do in the future.

Here is a recent sample of Obama's voting record.

Here is a longer list.

Quoting Rico:

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DanW,

Thanks! Something useful, awful lot of 'not voting'; anything in particular in the voting, that would make dem's (in general) shift?

Take Care
Rico

That would depend on your preference on a given topic. The gun control issue was a big one for me but I'm not sure if that is a "shift" topic for you. Tax is another one that I found to be fairly damning for Obama as well. There is the partial birth abortion issue which he supported and there's the stem cell research topic. As I said, it depends on your personal stand on the issues.

As you can see in the second link, there are a great many non-votes to peruse before you find an issue he actually votes on. This is one of my criticisms about Obama, his "inactivity". I have this criticism of almost all senators and congressmen. It is my belief that most people lack the patience to sift through this list to find what they need. Of course, this is why we see so many campaign commercials which, in turn, leads us to the biggest problem of all, misleading and blatantly false statements. Again, another criticism I have of Obama; in particular, his stance on gun control which he flat out lied about.

So, if you want the "real thing" click the second link and keep going until you find what you need. If you want my opinion... well, I think you already know what that is.

Quoting Snark:

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According to the WP analysis (a left leaning paper) Obama sided with his party 96.% of the time while the 'Maverick' did so 88.1% of the time.  This only counts the times they turned up of course.

Not only do I agree that the Washington Post is a "left leaning" publication I feel that this is a huge understatement. It is extremely "left" in it's views and spin on almost any topic.

I chose their list because it is about as concise a voting list as you might find. (Ok, I admit it, it was towards the top of the google search too.)

Quoting Rico:

Quote:
Hi Guys,

Brian - Many of the things in your last post I did not say + your intentionally twisting my words. Regarding the 3 generals, I said this should act as a warning to seek out the truth, perhaps those 3, know something that the others are not  willing to speak about. I don't know but it's at least some investigation as to why! Or are you conservatives afraid of investigation & truth. Let's call for these 3 maverick general, to come forward & explain. I get the feeling the truth is not important when it comes to left & right, dems & reps.

As for the 'More Wars' McCain video, was the camera man a dem. so therefore he did not repeatedly say War? Perhaps you fear Obama being president so much, that your willing to overlook things? Brian your entitled to your biased views & opinions; this is getting old, I said I was not 100% sure as to which candidate, I'd vote for. Nothing you've said so far sways me to your side.

Take Care
Rico

Hate to say it, but somehow that doesn't surprise in the least.

Quoting Dan W:

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I think that a voting record is the most "telling" of what a candidate will do in the future.

Here is a recent sample of Obama's voting record.

Here is a longer list.

You mean the Illinois record where he voted present over a hundred times?  What everyone should take away from your post is that Obama wasn't doing his job either as an Illinois senator or as a US senator.