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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote: Quoting whispering:
Quote: Quoting 8ballMax:
Quote: Why would my tax dollars be going to a foreign abortion group for in the first place?
"It is also known as the "global gag rule," because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy."
That explaned it to me. I dont think your tax money goes to any pro abortion groups abroad.
"President Barack Obama plans to sign an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortions"
That explained it to me. Don't know why you're surprised. This is exactly who we voted into office! Anyone who had bothered to actually look at his meager voting record, would have been able to predict this along with a lot more ultra liberal policies yet to come. | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote: "President Barack Obama plans to sign an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortions"
That explained it to me. So, let me see if I understand what's happening here. To help fix our financial woes, Obama is going to give more money...money we don't have...to other countries? Yea, that makes perfect sense to me. Congratulations indeed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
"It is also known as the "global gag rule," because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy."
That explaned it to me. I dont think your tax money goes to any pro abortion groups abroad. It didn't, but it will now...and let me be clear, my problem with this decision has nothing to do with abortion and everything to do with spending money we don't have. Last time I checked, you don't fix a $485.2 billion budget deficit by spending more money...you fix it by spending less. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Ahhh the Democratic cure-all, throw money at any problem. And if that doesn't work, then we didn't throw enough money at it, so throw more. That will fix it...Not. Never has, never will.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | EDITED per goodguys input below (changes bolded)One point of view from some of our Canadian compadres pretty much sums up my sentiments on this topic: Quoting Toronto Sun3 January 2009 Quote:
Obama's victory? An editorial from the Toronto Sun on Obama's Victory
A victory for the hysterical Oprah Winfrey, the mad racist preacher Jeremiah Wright, the mainstream media who abandoned any sense of objectivity long ago, Europeans who despise America largely because they depend on her, comics who claim to be dangerous and fearless but would not dare attack genuinely powerful special interest groups. A victory for Obama-worshippers everywhere. A victory for the cult of the cult. A man who has done little with his life but has written about his achievements as if he had found the cure for cancer in between winning a marathon and building a nuclear reactor with his teeth. Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality.
A victory for Hollywood, the most dysfunctional community in the world. Victory for Streisand, Spielberg, Soros and Sarandon. Victory for those who prefer welfare to will and interference to independence. For those who settle for group think and herd mentality rather than those who fight for individual initiative and the right to be out of step with meager political fashion.
Victory for a man who is no friend of freedom. He and his people have already stated that media has to be controlled so as to be balanced, without realizing the extraordinary irony within that statement. Like most liberal zealots, the Obama worshippers constantly speak of Fox and Limbaugh, when the vast bulk of television stations and newspapers are drastically liberal and anti-conservative. Senior Democrat Chuck Schumer said that just as pornography should be censored, so should talk radio. In other words, one of the few free and open means of popular expression may well be cornered and beaten by bullies who even in triumph cannot tolerate any criticism and opposition.
A victory for those who believe the state is better qualified to raise children than the family, for those who prefer teachers' unions to teaching and for those who are naively convinced that if the West is sufficiently weak towards its enemies, war and terror will dissolve as quickly as the tears on the face of a leftist celebrity.
A victory for social democracy even after most of Europe has come to the painful conclusion that social democracy leads to mediocrity, failure, unemployment, inflation, higher taxes and economic stagnation. A victory for intrusive lawyers, banal sentimentalists, social extremists and urban snobs.
Congratulations America!
Editorial Staff Toronto Sun | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Wow, Hal a voice of reason from the other side of the Pond. I hope that voice is heeded and it is not to late to reverse the issues over there.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,029 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: One point of view from some of our British compadres pretty much sums up my sentiments on this topic:
Quoting The London Daily Mail 3 January 2009
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Obama's victory? ...
Editorial Staff London Daily Mail You should verify your sources. While this has been re-circulated on the Web, it actually is an article by Canadian columnist Michael Coren, published in the Toronto Sun on Nov. 08, 2008. http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/michael_coren/2008/11/08/7344746-sun.htmlWell, at least Coren was born in England. BTW, to put the article in context, you might want to google "Michael Coren" and/or "Toronto Sun". | | | Matthias | | | Last edited: by goodguy |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | OK...the sentiment remains unchanged.
Edited original post to correct sourcing. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| Registered: March 10, 2007 | Posts: 4,282 |
| Posted: | | | | A political thread that hasn't devolved completely by the end of the first page? Quick reiteration: Feedback votes applied to a political post will, in most cases, be allowed to stand. So, if you're concerned with this you may wish to refrain from that type of post. Bear in mind that individual feedback votes have no net effect on the reputation score due to the normalizing algorithm. Only a persistent, broad-based feedback pattern will impact your score, either positively or negatively. | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: So, let me see if I understand what's happening here. To help fix our financial woes, Obama is going to give more money...money we don't have...to other countries? Yea, that makes perfect sense to me. Congratulations indeed. I may have missed something but that report doesn't mention anything about increasing the budget for international aid, only that it can now be used for groups who promote/perform abortions. |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote: BTW, to put the article in context, you might want to google "Michael Coren" and/or "Toronto Sun". To be honest, I don't think the people who agree with his statement, really care about "context". After reading that I was surprised to learn the paper wasn't owned by Rupert Murdoch! "voice of reason" indeed... |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: So, let me see if I understand what's happening here. To help fix our financial woes, Obama is going to give more money...money we don't have...to other countries? Yea, that makes perfect sense to me. Congratulations indeed. I may have missed something but that report doesn't mention anything about increasing the budget for international aid, only that it can now be used for groups who promote/perform abortions. For eight years, these groups have not gotten money. Instead, that money has gone somewhere else. Unless we now take from the groups that have been getting money, we will have to increase spending. It has to be one or the other. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Just a hint for anyone who's surprised about Obama's actions...he's going to alter government policy on stem cells. Just thought you might want to prepare yourself now for this next blow to the foundations of freedom. Oh, and science will officially be allowed again. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting northbloke:
Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: So, let me see if I understand what's happening here. To help fix our financial woes, Obama is going to give more money...money we don't have...to other countries? Yea, that makes perfect sense to me. Congratulations indeed. I may have missed something but that report doesn't mention anything about increasing the budget for international aid, only that it can now be used for groups who promote/perform abortions.
For eight years, these groups have not gotten money. Instead, that money has gone somewhere else. Unless we now take from the groups that have been getting money, we will have to increase spending. It has to be one or the other. For the eight years before that these groups had been given money. There wasn't a budget cut in the last eight years. There is a pot of money and more hands will be in it now, as they were eight years ago. Frankly, it's hardly even worth discussing as it's a sop to either side of the life debate, depending on which party is in power. |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: Just a hint for anyone who's surprised about Obama's actions...he's going to alter government policy on stem cells. Just thought you might want to prepare yourself now for this next blow to the foundations of freedom.
Oh, and science will officially be allowed again. Never! Creationism rules! |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: Frankly, it's hardly even worth discussing as it's a sop to either side of the life debate, depending on which party is in power. It is pretty depressing to see sometimes very worthy causes being used like that as a form of political point-scoring. |
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