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This is actually a good thing for the rest of the world.  Without us, the market for their goods would be considerably smaller.

The usual "USA! USA WE ARE THE BEST! USA USA..."
What a ***** comment 

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This is actually a good thing for the rest of the world.  Without us, the market for their goods would be considerably smaller.

The usual "USA! USA WE ARE THE BEST! USA USA..."
What a ***** comment 

I think you missed his point.  He isn't saying that we are the best.  He is saying that we consume a lot of goods produced in other countries.  This article claims that, "The world economy has been increasingly dependent on growth in the U.S. economy because it is the source of nearly one third of global demand."  Imagine what would happen if that demand stopped?

Like it or not, a financial crisis in this country will cause a ripple effect around the world: With US in crisis, global economy in peril: IMF

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I have deep suspicions relative to GlobalWarming by virtue of the FACT that every planet in our solar system is undergoing a similar warm up right now, which indicates that the REAL culprit lies elsewhere.

Skip

Probably the result of us humans (Americans actually) sending out all these space probes. 

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It is a treaty that, I am told, will reduce CO2 emissions.  Using China as an example, I simply pointed out that it won't.  Due to the exceptions in the treaty, again using China as an example, it will end up increasing CO2 emissions.  To me, that is a huge joke.

I beg to differ: You're right that the Kyoto Protocol does not effectively reduce CO² emissions by China, due to the exception provided for them. It does, however, lead to (more or less successful) attempts by the nations who ratified it, to reduce THEIR emissions.

Since China would pollute exactly the same way they're doing now without the Kyoto Protocol in effect, the bottom line is that this agreement actually DOES reduce CO² emissions globally, but simply not in that large a scale as could be possible were ALL nations to adhere to it.

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And yes, I am not replying to the Kyote part

This tells me that you are reading my posts out of context.  If you go back to my first post on this, and a couple after that, you will see that I am speaking in terms of the Kyoto Protocol.

It is a treaty that, I am told, will reduce CO2 emissions.  Using China as an example, I simply pointed out that it won't.  Due to the exceptions in the treaty, again using China as an example, it will end up increasing CO2 emissions.  To me, that is a huge joke.

Fine, then I will comment on the Kyoto protocol:

The goal of the Kyoto protocol is to reduce the carbon emission (among other things) from the industrialized countries (and it defines which countries that is and this includes the exclusion of China).  I would hence claim that what you have been told is wrong (the goal of the treaty is not to lower the total world wide emissions).

Sure we can quickly agree that it's not enough, we can agree on that in a heartbeat, but that does not mean it can be solved easily.

Personally I see no way of convincing developing countries they should reduce emissions more than we are in the developed countries (they might not be as developed as we are, but I doubt they would be so stupid). So the only way to get a reduction is if we in the developed countries lead the way. The Kyto protocols is an attempt to do this (but obviously rather limited as it can only go as far as the various politicians think they can get away with without being kicked out of office because they mess with living standards).

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This is actually a good thing for the rest of the world.  Without us, the market for their goods would be considerably smaller.

The usual "USA! USA WE ARE THE BEST! USA USA..."
What a ***** comment 

Do you deny the veracity of that statement?

If you do, then you have your head in the sand.

No more comment on this. Some people don't know how to use the red arrow and I will not get another one on a stupid discussion who have nothing to do on a dvd collector website.

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Evian water 9 oz $1.49..$21.19 per gallon! $21.19 for WATER and the buyers don't even know the source
(Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)

The funny part is, here tap water is much cleaner then bottled water, yet some still buy bottled

What is REALLY funny about this was detailed in an episode of Penn & Teller's Bulls***! where they tracked the bottled water industry in the US.  They discovered that a lot of the bottled water was, in fact, ordinary tap water.  So people were paying exhorbitant prices for stuff they got virtually for free by turning on their tap.  (I say virtually, because we DO have to pay for tap water, just not anyhere near the price of the "fancy" stuff).  I particularly liked the part of the P&T episode where they set up a special "water" restaurant where they treated water like wine -- had a water steward, and all -- but they were getting the "special water" from a garden hose behind the restaurant and putting it in fancy looking bottles.  The stupid customers were convinced that there was a difference between the water in bottle A and that in bottle B -- when it was actually the same water in different bottles.  P.T. Barnum was right about there being a sucker born every minute.

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This is actually a good thing for the rest of the world.  Without us, the market for their goods would be considerably smaller.

The usual "USA! USA WE ARE THE BEST! USA USA..."
What a ***** comment 

Do you deny the veracity of that statement?

If you do, then you have your head in the sand.

No more comment on this. Some people don't know how to use the red arrow and I will not get another one on a stupid discussion who have nothing to do on a dvd collector website.

AESP,
While I disagree with most of what you've said in this thread, I am really outraged that someone would give you a red arrow for anything you've said.      If someone sees anything offensive in your posts, they have a serious problem and should seek professional help from a psychoanalyst because they are clearly suffering from an advanced case of paranoia.  As someone who grew up being taught about the value of freedom of expression, I find these narrow-minded, cowardly and petty attempts at censorship totally out of line.