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For the eight years before that these groups had been given money.  There wasn't a budget cut in the last eight years.  There is a pot of money and more hands will be in it now, as they were eight years ago.

Isn't that one of the options I listed?  Either we increase the spending or we take from the other groups.  More hands in the same pot means we are taking from someone else. 

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Just a hint for anyone who's surprised about Obama's actions...he's going to alter government policy on stem cells.  Just thought you might want to prepare yourself now for this next blow to the foundations of freedom.

As well he should.  If people are going to have abortions anyway, some good should come out of it.

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As well he should.  If people are going to have abortions anyway, some good should come out of it.

On this we are in utter agreement.  I never understood why this became an issue in the first place.  It would be one thing if the government was proposing abortion factories to supply us with stem cells, but otherwise I've always been at a loss.

Because some people can't stand the fact that their tax dollars are being used to fund something they find morally abhorrent.

There are two reasons I am personally against it:
There has been no concrete, independently verified scientific evidence that embryonic stem cells are any better or worse than adult stem cells.

There is no reason private money couldn't be used to fund embryonic stem cell research.

Most people wouldn't admit this, but the brilliance of Bush's decision was that: private funding was not affected, and public funding could continue on existing stem-cell lines.

I don't think public money should be used to finance R&D in the private pharmaceutical space when the drug companies will continue to apply for perpetual patents to artificially keep the cost of prescription drugs up.

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Anyone that truely believes that Obama as president of the U.S.A. is going to make any difference in the current state of world affairs is living in Lolipop land. After all the parties and celebrations are over...get ready for change...

IMO, his plan to put our country 1 Trillion further in debt is going to be the final nail in the coffen. Might as well put the sign out now..."Going Out of Business Sale". It's sad to say but I'm glad my children live in Spain with their mother. At least they, and their children, won't be burdened with the debt that faces those living here.

But, hey! All the power to him and best of luck.

Have to agree with you.  He isn't even into the 2nd week yet and things are already starting to fall apart.  His nominee for Treasury Secetary is a tax cheat, his Chief of Staff is up to his neck in the Blagojevich scandal, Pelosi and Reid are already trying to run roughshod over him.  He has closed down Gitmo (even though we have no place to put the 500 prisoners who can't be returned to their own countries), the list goes on and on and on...

I predict that his stated policies as promised during the campaign will push this country and the world into a full blown Depression within six months to a year.  You can't tax your way out of a hole, nor can you print money for cash flow fixes without making it worthless (think of Italy after the Nazis bailed out in the latter part of WWII).

Everybody should save the congratulations until they see if we survive the next four years.  And for the record, I'm not saying McCain would necessarily have been any better, but we would have had a better chance holding back Pelosi and Reid with him.

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According to some, President Obama is still President Elect Obama. Apparantly Mr. Obama, due to no fault of his own, flubbed the Presidential Oath of Office, which must be taken verbatim, per the U.S. Constitution. So, unless Mr. Obama retakes the Oath in the presence of a Federal Magistrate and at least two witnesses, any Executive decision he makes could be contested in Federal Court, and he could lose...hypothetically, though not likely.

Not true.  Even if he hadn't taken the oath at all, he officially took office at 12:00 noon yesterday based on the language of the 20th amendment.

The 20th notwithstanding, he is required to take the oath by the Constitution.  In fact, they were worried enough about possible repercussions that he retook the oath the next day.  That has only happened once or twice before in all our history, so it was a big deal despite what some would have you believe.

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So let me be very clear, I consider the democratic Party to be one of the single most danngerous entities in the United States today

I was a Republican once - but the previous administration turned me into a Democrat.

It becomes a herculean challenge not to role your eyes a little after this last 8 years, to read how dangerous those commie democrats are. 

I don't think anybody is trying to claim the Republicans are lily white and never make mistakes -- we have, in fact, made some doozies.  But any objective reading of the history of the United States after 1900, cannot say that most of our problems were caused by anybody but the Democrats.  WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the Depression of the 1930's, Carter's Misery Index, the first Gulf War (actually both, because the GOP administration had to go back and fix what Clinton screwed up), Waco, the current housing and financial crisis.  That is not all, but more than enough to establish their total lack of bona fides.

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That's what I like.

A man of rock solid, firmly rooted principles!

That's right!  Rock solid but not set in stone.

Doesn't matter how strong the house is if the foundation is built on sand!

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Why would my tax dollars be going to a foreign abortion group for in the first place?

"It is also known as the "global gag rule," because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy."

That explaned it to me. I dont think your tax money goes to any pro abortion groups abroad.

"President Barack Obama plans to sign an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortions"

That explained it to me.

Don't know why you're surprised.  This is exactly who we voted into office!

Anyone who had bothered to actually look at his meager voting record, would have been able to predict this along with a lot more ultra liberal policies yet to come.

You must have a mouse in your pocket, Hal, because I didn't vote that so-and-so.  In fact, I spent every dime I could lay my hands on to try to make sure he didn't get elected.

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Rifter,

How can you be so rabidly anti Democrat?  Why is it that everything is so black and white with you?  Aren't there any grey areas in your political outlook.  Extremism in any way is destructive.  And you are about as extreme as I have come across.  I have difficulty understanding your point of view as there seems to be so much hatred in so many of the things you write.

The Democratic Party isn't close to being what you make them out to be.  Ravings such as yours do nothing but alienate people as well as making many of them wary of the Republican Party.  I wish you and the other overly right Republicans would just calm down.

Exaggerating facts and putting a spin on what is reported never wins an argument.

It is possilbe that he really does believe what he wrote.  The beauty of our modern means of information gathering is that one can form almost any view they like, and then find "news" sources to back it up entirely.  The internet has completely exasperated the situation.  Now all the fringe loons can get together and talk.  When they get their views reinforced, it doesn't seem quite so looney...at least to them.

This isn't directed at anybody in particular, just something I've noticed over the past few years.  Unless you actively seek out dissenting points of view, its incredibly easy to fall into this pattern.  I've noticed myself susceptible to it as well.