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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:

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Funny that all "free" Americans agree with the police state DVD Profiler is becoming.

Well, I guess for mixing up adherence to a common set of simple rules with a "police state" you either have to be a teenager, retarded or Dutch.

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Please don't stop your contributions, and no not everyone declines your opinions. The signature you bring forward is an excellent way, though perhaps too 'philosophical for some people, of expressing 'our' caution to strict rules. Martin Zuidervliet's 'police state' is perhaps a bit strong, but I think /hope showing the same concern.

Answers like: just follow the rules, the rules are simple and clear, the leader makes the rules and you just have to follow them, are frustrating. This is not a simple 'IMDb-love issue' or 'just not wanting to follow the rules-issue'. It is a serious concern for the idea that all will go well when the rules are strict. History shows this is a serious mistake. As I mentioned earlier I expect -though I can never prove it (only if I experiment it myself, which I will not do)- some (a lot?) contributors will just say 'c&c according to the end credits' regardless whether this is really verified. This is just one example of the way in which strict 'application' of rules can create a false idea of correctness. Control might even become less because other users may react, OK nice work, following the rules, OK!

Another point. In my search for data, using all kinds of 'Third party data' (!) I once found an interesting site concerning the German Series 'Heimat'. Something was not clear to me and I contacted the webmaster, told him I was preparing a profile and he was very interested, even asked wether I could 'place a link to his site'. Of course I told him this was not possible, but he was happy I could use his information. This is quite another story than the 'I'll sew you when you use my data'-stories that I hear. This sometimes looks like an American desease.
By the way we had an interesting dicussion about his incompleteness in the first air-dates of the second series, I mentioned the ones that were shown on IMDb, and he told me that could very well be correct. And that brings me to another point in this 'true or false'-dicussion. There would be NO science if we only allowed publication of 'true facts'. We learn by mistakes. Profiles sometimes start as a mess, but they will become better and better, that's why recontribution is an important part of the 'shaping' process. You can distinguish two kinds of mistakes: accepting something that in the end is false, or declining something that in the end is true. For a non-life-threatening- situation as contributions to DVP I think the risk to make the first  mistake is to be preferred above the second. Strict application of (not always very clear) rules clearly goes for the second. So we decline a profile where (perhaps) that one uncredited actor, is not  100% identified.
SimonD

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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:

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Funny that all "free" Americans agree with the police state DVD Profiler is becoming.

Well, I guess for mixing up adherence to a common set of simple rules with a "police state" you either have to be a teenager, retarded or Dutch.

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Come back of the year Martin.    

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Come back of the year Martin.    

Stay out of this, Telecine. The mutual hate between us and our weed smoking neighbors is none of your business. 

;)

(It's always fun to pick a bit on each other)

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Tigihof,

Putting aside historical issue for the purposes of this discussion, the only one I see peddling hate in this thread is you. You'd be first on my list for a "holiday" if I was moderating this forum. Pull your head in.