Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
I think the CLT is broken! (No it's not)
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,526
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
While testing one of my programs I found a significant difference between my results and the ones from the CLT. I thought I had a bug, but after a lot of debugging it seems that it is instead the CLT that is buggy.

Case in point: I searched the CLT for "Paull Walia" (note Paull with two L). One of the profiles listed by the CLT is the German release of Ocean's Thirteen, UPC 7-321982-000868. It shows Paull Walia as "Security Technician". However when I downloaded the profile to check it, I see that the name in the actual profile is really "Paul Walia" with a single L. 
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
Registered: March 18, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 1,601
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I don't think the CLT is broken. I downloaded the profile and then tried recontributing without changes and to my surprise the cast and crew were much different. It looks like T!M submitted a contribution to the cast and crew on 14 Jan 2024 which were approved today on 19 Jan 2024. His changes use "Paull Walia" so it seems not all changes have completely updated throughout the system.
 Last edited: by rdodolak
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,526
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Ok, I wonder if T!M updated more than one profile, because I got perhaps half a dozen mismatches.
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
Registered: March 18, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 1,601
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting GSyren:
Quote:
Ok, I wonder if T!M updated more than one profile, because I got perhaps half a dozen mismatches.


I think that is likely because he tends to update cast and crew for a given film across profiles.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,667
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
This week, I've contributed to exactly 12 'Ocean's Thirteen' profiles that each had woefully incorrect sets of cast and crew data. I did that while working on the common name for Paull Walia, indeed - see my common name-finding thread for him here. Those 12 'Ocean's Thirteen' profiles each listed "Paul" when the actual credit is for "Paull", which made it incorrectly look like like Paul Walia was the common name, which it isn't.

The CLT isn't "broken" (at least, not in the way described here), but there's a difference in the "live" CLT data (which immediately changes the second a contribution is being accepted) and the updated database-files you're probably using for your programs - that data is only updated once a day. So at any given point during each and every day, there can always be differences between the daily-updated-data you're drawing from, and the "live" data the CLT is drawing from. It's always been that way.
 Last edited: by T!M
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,526
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Thanks T!M,

That explains the mismatch that I saw. I didn't realize that the CLT was ”ahead” of the database files. That's a bit unfortunate as it makes it harder for me to verify that my program counts things correctly.
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next