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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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A little parody post to see what kind of users we have.  Answer truthfully now! 
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I admit, I didn't feel against IMDB until I realised a) how many errors are in it and b) how much the site could be sued for if found using IMDB data

Now, Credits 1st, last and only

Though, I may use other sites to check details out
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It's in all our interests to care about Invelos but I would choose:

Option 3: I don't use IMDb because it's frequently wrong.

A recent example. Opening credits of  'Big Nothing' show the first three studios as:

Pathé Productions
Ingenious Film Partners
Isle of Man Film

IMDb lists none of these!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488085/companycredits
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Option 3: I don't use IMDb because it's frequently wrong.

Sorry, this poll has nothing to do with the validity of the data itself on IMDb. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantZoeper
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Don't want to state the obvious, but against using IMDB data
Jean-Paul
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Initially I did not have any provisos against Imdb. But after x-checking cast and crew of some tv series, i realised that there are many, many errors (completely wrong in some episodes). So my trustfulness in this database is gone.
Thorsten
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[X] I don't care, because I don't use the cast function, as I pointed out at DVD Collectors:

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To be honest, I don't use the cast function of DVDP at all. If I'm interested in a cast, I go to IMDb.

My reasons for that: Whatever Skipnet is saying, IMDb is accurate enough for me. Most of the time, my computer is running when I'm at home and when my computer is running, my browser is running. Actually, I have a PC and a Mac and currently both are running and on both a browser is open. Therefore IMDb is fast and easily accessible. Another reason is that DVDP only shows those movies that I've got in my collection but when I look up an actor I want to see all his appearences and not only those on movies I own. And then there is still this "common name" problem which IMHO will still take a while until all actors are "common-named".
Karsten
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Karsten:

If IMDb is accurate enough for you, then why use Profiler, you can track 10,000 titles at IMDb for FREE!!!!

Quit grousing about it.

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DVD Profiler is for profiling DVDs (Surprise!), IMDb is for looking up movies and actors.

The right tool for the right purpose.

PS: As you might have noticed, I did not(!) advocate on using IMDb data on DVDP and even if DVDP had already common names it would be still useless for most of my searches because I do not own every movie ever made.
Karsten
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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DVD Profiler is for profiling DVDs (Surprise!), IMDb is for looking up movies and actors.

The right tool for the right purpose.

PS: As you might have noticed, I did not(!) advocate on using IMDb data on DVDP and even if DVDP had already common names it would be still useless for most of my searches because I do not own every movie ever made.


Having a source with data on 10,000 movies would be really cool, if it was accurate!  But what bloody good is 10,000 movies worth of crap?  I quit using IMDB years before DVDP even existed because it is more fiction than fact.
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Having a source with data on 10,000 movies would be really cool, if it was accurate!  But what bloody good is 10,000 movies worth of crap?  I quit using IMDB years before DVDP even existed because it is more fiction than fact.
Last weekend I watched Xena on TV and I was sure I knew that Cesar. So I went to IMDb, looked up the episode and found Karl Urban as Cesar. Of course! Karl Urban -> Éomer from Lord of the Rings. And he played in Pathfinder, too!

That's my usual use case. But what good is it in DVDP when I don't own all 3 titles?

And honestly I don't care if the actor of the 3rd Orc in the 5th row is invented by someone who has entered himself because I wouldn't care about the 3rd Orc in the 5th row in the first place.
Karsten
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Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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DVD Profiler is for profiling DVDs (Surprise!), IMDb is for looking up movies and actors.

The right tool for the right purpose.

PS: As you might have noticed, I did not(!) advocate on using IMDb data on DVDP and even if DVDP had already common names it would be still useless for most of my searches because I do not own every movie ever made.


Having a source with data on 10,000 movies would be really cool, if it was accurate!  But what bloody good is 10,000 movies worth of crap?  I quit using IMDB years before DVDP even existed because it is more fiction than fact.


Untill a few years ago the rating on IMDB was pretty good, that went downhill after more and more people started using IMDB... for FUN!!!

Ratings of 6 or 7 out of 10 were only for those gems. A movie was a good movie when it had an IMDB rating of 5.6 or near there...

But I have to agree with Karsten that you can find some quite good info, wven though it isn't 100% accurate. But DVDP isn't either, even though all the effort put into it.
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Apparently IMDb is good enough for most people. Even Hollywood uses it. Personally, I don't use DVD Profiler for its limited cast and crew functionality. It has no search capabilities anyway so it's pretty useless in that respect and the cross-linking is of course still broken and might never be fully fixed. What good is 100% accurate data if you can't do anything useful with it? And what good are my 2,000 titles against IMDb's millions? It doesn't tell me anything of what I don't own.

That said, I understand and comply with the rule as it stands today.
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I use the IMDB as base but I check all the credits in the DVD, as the rules
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If you feel that the legal reasons for not using IMDb data are are stupid or unjustified. Go visit your local government authority or that of the state of Missouri were Invelos is based and get the the law changed. Please do not whine about it in these forums. We in these forums do not own the database Invelos simply allows us to use it at their discretion. The program is great and the community is great. I have noticed that most (not all) of the criticism comes from outside North America. Maybe some of you who want to use IMDb data should get together and contact Ken  about buying a franchise of the program to fit within the laws of your country. You can not blame anyone for not wanting to be sued unless you are willing to pay their legal fees. Until that time follow the rules as established or don't contribute.

Use of the online database is a privilege not a right.
Brian
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If you feel that the legal reasons for not using IMDb data are are stupid or unjustified. Go visit your local government authority or that of the state of Missouri were Invelos is based and get the the law changed. Please do not whine about it in these forums. We in these forums do not own the database Invelos simply allows us to use it at their discretion. The program is great and the community is great. I have noticed that most (not all) of the criticism comes from outside North America. Maybe some of you who want to use IMDb data should get together and contact Ken  about buying a franchise of the program to fit within the laws of your country. You can not blame anyone for not wanting to be sued unless you are willing to pay their legal fees. Until that time follow the rules as established or don't contribute.

Use of the online database is a privilege not a right.


I have no intention of using IMdB for contributing (my albeit very few profiles). I've been using Profiler since 2000 and quite frankly, feel insulted by the tone of this and other anti-IMdB threads.

Nobody's whining here, Brian, and I think most people on the forums do understand why they can't use IMdB and don't even want to. Karsten's already been accused of grousing and he never even suggested it should be used as a source. All he did was defend it as a website. But that's a bad thing round here now isn't it?

I am fed up of seeing the steady stream of hate flowing towards IMdB. Several of you imply we'd be better of without it. Rubbish! IMdB is one of the best sites on the net, full stop. I use it daily for the news round-ups, quotes and other stuff. I just avoid the fairly well hidden forums. It's my first stop for every instance that Karsten described of trying to place an actor. Their search methods are brilliant, especially finding shared cast and crew and contrary to what is said, it is broadly accurate. It's very nature means it can't be anything more.

Please everyone, for once and for all, stop waving this crap around like a big stick and speaking to people like they are children. 
Jon
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