This is a nice one, since it's a "common name" decision that even the people who refuse to use "common names" have to make: the software simply won't allow you to have entries for both Don Digirolamo and Don DiGirolamo. So it would seem that everybody HAS to pick one.

After some research, I felt I had to vote for Don Digirolamo, without the capital G. The guy appears 27 times throughout my collection. If I'm not mistaken (I'd have to re-check them all to be absolutely sure, it's always possible that I've missed one), 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' is the ONLY time he's credited as Don DiGirolamo with a capital G. I may not have all the movies he worked on, but I'd say these 27 give me a rather good indication. As I see it, I have two options:

- Either I agree with Martin and choose Don DiGirolamo as his common name, in which case I'm going to have to submit a Don DiGirolamo "credited as" Don Digirolamo to 26 other profiles - which means I'm also going to have to convince 26 sets of voters that this is the right way to go.

- Or we choose Don Digirolamo as his common name, in which case only 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' would need a Don Digirolamo "credited as" Don DiGirolamo credit, and my other 26 profiles could remain unchanged.

I'd be perfectly willing to accept Don DiGirolamo as his common name, if he'd only be credited as such a bit more often. I might even be convinced by say 10 out of 27 credits - as it's also possible that something like this is lost a number of times due to credits in ALL CAPS - but if it's just once or twice, I think we should go with the most commonly credited name. Note that I couldn't find an "official" site for Mr. Digirolamo, and that several online movie database like imdb.com, tcmdb.com and allmovie.com all refer to him as Don Digirolamo without the capital G.

Quoting T!M:

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This is a nice one, since it's a "common name" decision that even the people who refuse to use "common names" have to make: the software simply won't allow you to have entries for both Don Digirolamo and Don DiGirolamo. So it would seem that everybody HAS to pick one.

After some research, I felt I had to vote for Don Digirolamo, without the capital G. The guy appears 27 times throughout my collection. If I'm not mistaken (I'd have to re-check them all to be absolutely sure, it's always possible that I've missed one), 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' is the ONLY time he's credited as Don DiGirolamo with a capital G. I may not have all the movies he worked on, but I'd say these 27 give me a rather good indication. As I see it, I have two options:

- Either I agree with Martin and choose Don DiGirolamo as his common name, in which case I'm going to have to submit a Don DiGirolamo "credited as" Don Digirolamo to 26 other profiles - which means I'm also going to have to convince 26 sets of voters that this is the right way to go.

- Or we choose Don Digirolamo as his common name, in which case only 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' would need a Don Digirolamo "credited as" Don DiGirolamo credit, and my other 26 profiles could remain unchanged.

I'd be perfectly willing to accept Don DiGirolamo as his common name, if he'd only be credited as such a bit more often. I might even be convinced by say 10 out of 27 credits - as it's also possible that something like this is lost a number of times due to credits in ALL CAPS - but if it's just once or twice, I think we should go with the most commonly credited name. Note that I couldn't find an "official" site for Mr. Digirolamo, and that several online movie database like imdb.com, tcmdb.com and allmovie.com all refer to him as Don Digirolamo without the capital G.

Well put.

Some Italian and other immigrants in the U.S.A. kept the original spelling of their names, like Leonardo DiCaprio's ancestors or himself, others, and maybe Don DiGirolamo is one of them, decided to adjust their names to the English standards. The fact that his full name is written in all caps most of the time does not necessary mean that this is his correct name. It also does not mean that if his name is written once or twice the other way that that is correct. So I'm still a little (confused).

Quoting T!M:

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This is a nice one, since it's a "common name" decision that even the people who refuse to use "common names" have to make: the software simply won't allow you to have entries for both Don Digirolamo and Don DiGirolamo. So it would seem that everybody HAS to pick one.

After some research, I felt I had to vote for Don Digirolamo, without the capital G. The guy appears 27 times throughout my collection. If I'm not mistaken (I'd have to re-check them all to be absolutely sure, it's always possible that I've missed one), 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' is the ONLY time he's credited as Don DiGirolamo with a capital G. I may not have all the movies he worked on, but I'd say these 27 give me a rather good indication. As I see it, I have two options:

- Either I agree with Martin and choose Don DiGirolamo as his common name, in which case I'm going to have to submit a Don DiGirolamo "credited as" Don Digirolamo to 26 other profiles - which means I'm also going to have to convince 26 sets of voters that this is the right way to go.

- Or we choose Don Digirolamo as his common name, in which case only 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' would need a Don Digirolamo "credited as" Don DiGirolamo credit, and my other 26 profiles could remain unchanged.

I'd be perfectly willing to accept Don DiGirolamo as his common name, if he'd only be credited as such a bit more often. I might even be convinced by say 10 out of 27 credits - as it's also possible that something like this is lost a number of times due to credits in ALL CAPS - but if it's just once or twice, I think we should go with the most commonly credited name. Note that I couldn't find an "official" site for Mr. Digirolamo, and that several online movie database like imdb.com, tcmdb.com and allmovie.com all refer to him as Don Digirolamo without the capital G.

Of course, you could also take the other road and just wait on the common name until Ken provides some way to decide that doesn't involve personal preference, but I suppose that is just too damn much to expect, eh? 

Yes, within Profiler you can only have either Digirolamo or DiGirolamo. The good thing is, different to older versions of Profiler, that updates changing the capitalization will not change the capitalization of your local database.

Yes, local overwrites online, because online it's stored on a per-profile basis, not in a database. A little more work if you have it different locally, as you temporarily need to change it, to match the online, and then later change it back.

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Of course, you could also take the other road and just wait on the common name until Ken provides some way to decide that doesn't involve personal preference, but I suppose that is just too damn much to expect, eh? 

As I pointed out in the first sentence of my message that you even quoted: in this particular case you simply CANNOT wait as DVD Profiler doesn't allow you to have entries for both Don Digirolamo and Don DiGirolamo. I thought I was very clear in pointing that out. This is "common names" for beginners: if you own both 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' (in which he's credited as Don DiGirolamo) and another title in which he's credited as Don Digirolamo (for instance: 'Romancing the Stone'), than you HAVE to make this decision, whether you like it or not: you simply cannot enter them both "as credited". The only way in which you can have your local crew lists reflect what's on-screen in both cases exactly, is to decide on a "common name" and use "credited as" for the profiles in which he's credited differently.

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I haven't tried it yet, but according to Achim two posts above apparently the program now will accomodate upper and lower case.

Why post if you didn't even try it? Your post only confuses things further, and it isn't even true. I did take the trouble to try it - took me eight seconds - and here's the answer: No, it doesn't. If I try, I just get an error message saying: "Unable to save changes. A duplicate record exists." Which, by the way, is exactly what Achim said (see quote below), so I don't really understand where you got this from anyway...

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Yes, within Profiler you can only have either Digirolamo or DiGirolamo.

The good news Achim did mention, is that if you download a profile which has a different capitalization on a certain name than you have in your local database, downloading that profile won't change the capitalization in your local database. That's great: once you've made up your mind and picked one of both variants, you don't have to worry it might get changed again by downloading another profile. The fact remains that in examples like this one, we just HAVE to pick one of both variants as the "common name".