I know this topic has been brought up numerous times in the past but, currently have a contribution that list the last two cast members as Stunt Coordinator and Stunt Co-Coordinator. 

Cast list looks like this:

John Campbell as BOP Bus Driver
Brian Willems as Paramedic
Bill Cusack as Paramedic
Dabbs Greer as Old Man Under Truck
Marco Kyris as Cindino's Pilot
Kenny Bates as Stunt Coordinator
Steve Picerni as Stunt Co-Coordinator

Then there is a separation with the header "Stunts" with a list of those who performed stunts.

In the past it was decieded if anyone was listed in the cast list we included them, human, animal or even imaginary.  As long as the was no screen separation.

The ones voting no reasons are the following;
Stunt people should not be listed.
My rules interpretation cast ends where the actors end.  Then all the stunt people should be included.
You have to add all the stunt people.

So I'm bring this back up here for you guys to discuss and see if we want to handle so called Stunt, when listed in the cast list?

Quoting Tracer:

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I know this topic has been brought up numerous times in the past but, currently have a contribution that list the last two cast members as Stunt Coordinator and Stunt Co-Coordinator. 

Cast list looks like this:

John Campbell as BOP Bus Driver
Brian Willems as Paramedic
Bill Cusack as Paramedic
Dabbs Greer as Old Man Under Truck
Marco Kyris as Cindino's Pilot
Kenny Bates as Stunt Coordinator
Steve Picerni as Stunt Co-Coordinator

Then there is a separation with the header "Stunts" with a list of those who performed stunts.

In the past it was decieded if anyone was listed in the cast list we included them, human, animal or even imaginary.  As long as the was no screen separation.

The ones voting no reasons are the following;
Stunt people should not be listed.
My rules interpretation cast ends where the actors end.  Then all the stunt people should be included.
You have to add all the stunt people.

So I'm bring this back up here for you guys to discuss and see if we want to handle so called Stunt, when listed in the cast list?

The way its been done for quite some time now is that if they are integral in the cast list, you include them.  If they are not, you don't.  If they are at the very end of the cast list, just preceding a gap before other stunt entries are shown, you drop them from the end of the list as well.

So, include would be like this:

Actor 1
Actor 2
Stunt 1
Actor 3
Actor 4

Not include like this: 

Actor 1                                          Actor 1
Actor 2                                          Actor 2
Actor 3                                          Actor 3
Stunt 1                                          gap
gap                                              Stunt 1
Stunt 2                                          Stunt 2

Watch the gap, though, sometimes it is hard to tell, and may also encompass a format change or a font change as well.

This is not clear in the Rules, but if they are at the end of the cast list, I would drop them.

The only time I would include them is if they are in the middle of the cast listing.

They are definitely not cast members.

Quoting Tracer:

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Cast list looks like this:

John Campbell as BOP Bus Driver
Brian Willems as Paramedic
Bill Cusack as Paramedic
Dabbs Greer as Old Man Under Truck
Marco Kyris as Cindino's Pilot
Kenny Bates as Stunt Coordinator
Steve Picerni as Stunt Co-Coordinator

Strictly by the Rules the two coordinators should be in, as they are part of the actor list.

However, as they add no value to the database, I personally probably wouldn't credit them myself. But a No vote is against the rules.

Quoting T!M:

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Quoting hal9g:

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but if they are at the end of the cast list, I would drop them.

Agreed! As I said: you wouldn't believe how many cast lists actually do this (without any noticable gap/font change/whatever). But if you go and check profiles around the world for titles like that, usually not a single profile can be found that actually credit them.

I'll supply an example: the end credits of 'Mickey Blue Eyes' include two stunt coordinators, a stunt double and three stand-ins at the end of the cast list, with no noticable gap/font change/whatever. I understand that a case can be made to include them - "enter the cast exactly as credited" et al - but let's have a look at about a dozen 'Mickey Blue Eyes' profiles throughout the various regions/localities, shall we? None of these include any of these stunt/stand-in entries: independently, everyone seems to have made the same decision about the "cut-off" point. I'd say that indicates that basically noone wants them in. So yes, dropping these from the end of the cast list is absolutely fine by me.

Actually this movie lists what it appears to be true stunt cast members as well.

Randee Barnes as Stickman
Don Davis as Man In Car
Barbara Sharma as Woman In Car
Tommy Rosales as Cindino Gunman (Stunts)
Eddie Perez as Cindino Gunman (Stunts)
Scott McCoy as Cindino Gunman (Stunts)
Brian Hayes Currie as Cop In Vegas
Ashley Smock as Huey Pilot
Charles Lynn Frost as DEA Agent
Joey Miyashima as Tech Guy
Scott Burkholder as Air Traffic Controller
Kevin Cooney as Judge
Gérard L'Heureux as Guard Renfro
Pete Antico as Guard Garner
John Robotham as Guard Ryan
Gilbert Rosales as Ramirez (Stunt)
Richard Duran as Warlock (Stunt)
George Randall as Old Con On Plane

Quoting Tracer:

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Kenny Bates as Stunt Coordinator
Steve Picerni as Stunt Co-Coordinator

there not on screen performing, they are coördinating the stunts so they should stay out of the cast.

Stunt coordinator >< Stunt

Quoting Giga Wizard:

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Stunt coordinator >< Stunt

Just nit-picking but the correct compairson to use is <>