Since there is some heated discussion on the Casetype of parent profiles, I am holding a few polls because I am just interested to know what the consensus is. Let's assume the contents are either multiple movies or a TV series (in other words: the profile can have child profiles).
For each case, I want you to say what the parent profile would have as casetype.

Case 1:
A foldout-digipak with a slip cover (open at top and bottom). I.e. you slide off the cover either at the top or bottom, then you are left with 1 package that you can fold open that holds all the disks.

Case 2:
A foldout-digipak but that sits in a slip case. I.e. the Digipak slides out of a box (usually at the right hand side).

I'd be interested to know why more people are voting for digipak in case 2?
It seems obvious to me that the case type in that situation is a box set, it's case 1 that's more ambiguous.

Northbloke: some people, incl myself, were under the impression that you should only use Boxset as case type for the parent if the contents are multiple *separately* packaged items. So, one single digipak-book would be a single item and would therefore not make up a Boxset but a Digipak. Part of the reasoning is also that Digipaks always have a cover around them to keep them from falling open.
However, some claim that you should use a Boxset whenever the outer package is a slipcase, i.e. box that opens only at one side, but not if it is a slipcover (2 open sides). Some even claim that that is even the case when the contents is e.g. a keepcase with a single movie. And someone else even claims that any parent profile that represents either multiple movies or a TV-series, should have 'Boxset' casetype, even if there is no extra cover around it (see the other poll).
In any case, the rules are really very vague about this, and refer to the Case Type forum thread in which the opening post is just as vague IMHO.
The discussion in the other thread is very heated. If the 'other camp' is right, this poll at least illustrates that most people are not aware of this.

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It's also important to remember that this is about packaging only, not about the profile type. A set can still be set up as a "box set" profile (with child profiles and all), regardless of what case type it comes in.

BTW, T!M, something that I was wondering each time you brought this up: DVD Profile doesn't really have a way to identify a profile as being a 'boxset' profile, other than adding Boxset Contents (child profiles), does it ?
(Just making sure I understand what you mean).

No, indeed: there isn't some kind of checkbox to indicate whether a profile is of the "box set" type - and I agree that that's a pity. It's obvious in your local database: as soon as you add "child profiles", you see a + appear before the set's title, through which you can access the contents. But other than that, there's no indication of that. Incidentally: that is the reason why Rifter insists on using the "case type" field for this: since there's no other way to do it, he chooses "box set" as case type for any profile that he's set up as a box set, even if it's just two movies in a single keepcase (with no outer packaging of any kind). So I understand WHY he does that - it's just not what the field is meant for...

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Ok, now I understand THAT part of the discussion and why Rifter would want it that way. If you add the profile (by UPC e.g.) but don't add the children, there would indeed be no way to notice that it is a 'set' that contains multiple child movies.

Correct - and I'd love to see a feature where we could indicate this in any way - maybe it would help preventing those weekly updates from people who are tyring to add cast and crew to box set profiles of say the 'Back to the Future' or 'Indiana Jones' sets. But it has nothing to do with the actual case type.

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It's also important to remember that this is about packaging only, not about the profile type. A set can still be set up as a "box set" profile (with child profiles and all), regardless of what case type it comes in.

BTW, T!M, something that I was wondering each time you brought this up: DVD Profile doesn't really have a way to identify a profile as being a 'boxset' profile, other than adding Boxset Contents (child profiles), does it ?
(Just making sure I understand what you mean).

Well, now you've finally started to see the problem, and what I was trying to tell you.

OK, now that you understand what I've been driving at, how about you help me put together a proposal to fix this problem, and then lobby to get it put in place.  Trust, I don't enjoy having to rehash this stuff every time some clueless newbie asks a question on how to do it, and gets six different answers.

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Read this... Why most users are choosing "digipak" for Case 2 is because, simply put, that's what it is. Allmost ALL digipaks come in some kind of outer box - with a few exceptions of course. That outer box/sleeve/cover or whatever you want to call it, doesn't turn it into a box set: it's simply part of what a multiple disc "digipak" is. Also: the "slip case" from Case 2 could also contain not a digipak, but a single keepcase with a single movie. It wouldn't be a "box set" then, would it? Once you realize that, it's obvious that you cannot let the outer "slip case" / "slip cover" / whatever decide what to call a "box set" and what not. "Box set" as a case type is only to be used for a kind of box that holds multiple, separately packaged discs, whether they're packaged in keepcases, thinpaks, snappers,...

The thing that most people seem to look at is the disc... "Where is my disc...?" The disc is in a digipak, so that's what they choose.

What needs to be looked at is the item being profiled. When I am profiling the parent profile, I am actually profiling the "container" only, not the disc(s). So the case type that needs to be chosen is the one that represents that "container" the best.

When I am profiling the actual disc (child profile), then I am looking at the "case" that holds the disc.

If we always look at the disc, then, e.g. the "Lord of the Rings" or "King Kong" Gift Sets would not be Custom case type...

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Why is it so difficult to follow the images given?
Is there something we missed or didn't clarify?

Given the outcome of this poll (so far), the answer is obviously: Yes.
If I would strictly go by the images, I guess I would have to do the following :
* Keepcase inside a Slipcase = Boxset !!???
* Digipak inside a Slipcover = Digipak
* Digipak inside a Slipcase = Boxset !!???

Apparently, most people don't go by those rules, and the reason is that from all possible variations, they are the most complex and least logical.