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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 405 |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Bah, the list ain't any good. Babylon 5 isn't listed! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 188 |
| Posted: | | | | No 2001! Madness. | | | Build a man a fire and you keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire and you keep him warm the rest of his life. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 315 |
| Posted: | | | | 2001 was not on "the last 25 yrs." Babylon 5 is on the link on the last page to the "I can't believe you forgot about..." 18 other shows. | | | With every passing hour our solar system comes forty-three thousand miles closer to globular cluster M13 in the constellation Hercules, and still there are some misfits who continue to insist that there is no such thing as progress. | | | Last edited: by Skywatcher |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 188 |
| Posted: | | | | Ah, didn't see the last 25 years restriction. Whew! Still, missing Babylon 5 was a sin. | | | Build a man a fire and you keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire and you keep him warm the rest of his life. |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 366 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHFactor: Quote: Ah, didn't see the last 25 years restriction. Whew! Still, missing Babylon 5 was a sin. Not just a sin, the list loses all credibility for placing it on an "honorable mention" page. EDIT: And putting the Matrix at #1 makes it even less credible, at least to me (if you can get less credibile than no credibility). | | | Last edited: by nolesrule |
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Registered: March 17, 2007 | Posts: 853 |
| Posted: | | | | EW was obviously working on a TV list. There were very few movies and they named more scifi/comedy than scifi movies. Plus they left out Stargate. We should make our own list, chuck the 25 years and pick the best 50 scifi not scifi/comedies of all time... |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,005 |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't know what you're talking about, Tom. The Clone Wars animated series was head and shoulders better than the prequel trilogy.
Personally, I think the Matrix was overrated, and Futurama was (far) underrated. |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 405 |
| Posted: | | | | I was happy to see Firefly on the list...still one of my favorite all-time Sci-Fi shows ever!!! I still wish for a 2nd season!!! | | | My Collection!!! |
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Registered: April 17, 2007 | Posts: 1,091 |
| Posted: | | | | I can see why The Matrix was ranked so highly (the list is to do with influence, not quality), but if that's the case, why is Cube missing? The slicing of characters without them noticing, then the slow drip of blood/sliding of segments has become a cliché of the genre almost as much as bullet-time. Resident Evil, which borrows this idea, could also be argued as deserving of a spot for catalysing the action-scifi genre. | | | Adelaide Movie Buffs (info on special screenings, contests, bargains, etc. relevant to Adelaideans... and contests/bargains for other Aussies too!) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 550 |
| Posted: | | | | Yeah that list sucks | | | Schultzy - http://www.michaelschultz.net grenactics - The art of skillfully fraggin one’s opponent with the use of grenades or other compact explosive devices that are thrown by hand or projected. |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Agreed - what a load of crap! |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 1,982 |
| Posted: | | | | It's Entertainment Weekly do you really expecting something credible and well done? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | I'd like to put on my serious hat for a moment... not to make a joke or jump on an easy quip.
I'm what some would call a hard-core science fiction fan. I've voted for Hugo awards nearly every year since the early 1960s, and have a rather substantial collection of first editions, autographed and inscribed books, and I've attended many science fiction conventions, including a few WorldCons. I look at the genre as a form of literature, and like most book readers, find film and TV adaptions weak in detail and substance compared to the novels and short fiction available. I know the difference between science fiction, speculative fiction, and fantasy. I rarely use the term Sci-Fi, because it often means something I don't care for much.
But the impact (in numbers) that film has (compared to books) is enormous. And TV has an even larger multiplying factor when it comes to viewers. But popular does not equal good. More popular rarely means better. And biggest box office (& ratings) does not equal best quality.
One of the greatest writers of the 20th Century, Ted Sturgeon, was asked by a literary critic why he always wrote science fiction... after all 90% of science fiction is crap. Sturgeon responded that 90% of everything is crap. There are far more books published than films or TV series produced. Therefor there will be far more great (ie, non-crap) science fiction books than great science fiction films or TV shows. To select the "best" 25 pieces of science fiction presented dramatically over the past 25 years is to maximize the possibilities. There's a lot of crap in this list, and crap in some of the alternatives presented.
Great science fiction films are a rare breed indeed. I doubt if I could name 25 great science fiction films made in the past 100+ years. There are enjoyable ones, even some horrible ones who overcome their inspidness to become high camp. But I cannot think of one which has the literary or artistic impact of a couple of Alfred Bester books written in the early 1950s (I refer to "The Demolished Man" and one titled either "The Stars My Destination" or "Tiger! Tiger!"). The best SF films and TV shows hint at this possiblity, but (in my opinion) have yet to achieve this level of artistic skill and mastery. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,005 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Leiterfluid: Quote: The Clone Wars animated series was head and shoulders better than the prequel trilogy. That doesn't tell much I was disappointed. For one thing: I always imaged the clone wars being the main story of the happening before the old trilogy and should have been told by the prequel trilogy. What did we get instead? The clone wars told in an in-between animated series like it was an afterthought (hm: Didn't we forget something? Oh yes, the clone wars. What should we do now? Let's make a little cartoon and make more money!). The story they told didn't keep me interested. Also the animation was like a mixture of bad 80's cartoon and standard fare flash animation with unintentionally funny character design. I had to laugh out loud when I saw Anakin as a child and Qui-Gon Jinn in volume 2. | | |
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