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http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE4A572J20081106

I am from Finland and this is just stupid... 
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http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE4A572J20081106

I am from Finland and this is just stupid... 


That's really unbelievable 
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That's really unbelievable 

Why? It's no different in germany. If you don't give it to the FSK for assessment, you'll only get a "KJ" (not under 18)
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That's just plain stupid! A buck is a buck, eh?...   
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That's really unbelievable 

Why? It's no different in germany. If you don't give it to the FSK for assessment, you'll only get a "KJ" (not under 18)


Yes, sure! But illogical anyway, that cannot be the sense of ratings IMHO! To be honest I don't know a German equivalent to this! 
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What I though was really funny here, is that Universal Pictures is counting their pennies for a couple of thousand Euros.... How cheap can you get in a conglomerate! 
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What I though was really funny here, is that Universal Pictures is counting their pennies for a couple of thousand Euros.... How cheap can you get in a conglomerate! 

Well, depends on what difference it makes. In Germany the "KJ" rating leads to some really obnoxoius hurdles in mailing those DVDs, so no distributior in his right mind would try it.
But if makes no difference for the finnish market, why bother?

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What I though was really funny here, is that Universal Pictures is counting their pennies for a couple of thousand Euros.... How cheap can you get in a conglomerate! 

It's actually quite a bit more than just a couple thousand dollars.

If you remember correctly, this was an hour show. The typical "hour show" averages about 47 minutes. you multiply that by $2.47 per minute and you get $116.00 (rounding down) per episode. The show ran for 9 years which gives you at least 200 episodes, so you take the $116 per episode and multiply that by 200 and you wind up with a cost for rating that series for release in that country of $23,200.

Considering the profit margin and the expected sales in that one country, I see why they wouldn't want to pay to have it rated. Especially when you consider the show is being aired there and people already know what it should be rated.
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That's really unbelievable 

Why? It's no different in germany. If you don't give it to the FSK for assessment, you'll only get a "KJ" (not under 18)


Yes, sure! But illogical anyway, that cannot be the sense of ratings IMHO! To be honest I don't know a German equivalent to this! 

Not for movies or TV shows, but for computer games. Here we have the same problem and all computer games that were released before the "USK" came up are now USK-18 even Donkey-Kong and Pacman.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Strange, isn't it? 
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Give it a PG-13 just in case someone smokes or something.

The ttile of this thread did throw me for a second. When I was a kid, I used to have to go to bed immendiatly after LHOTP, not before. I was asking myself "how did they know"?
Of course if I was still that age I would've thought everyone had to go to bed after LHOTP.
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What I though was really funny here, is that Universal Pictures is counting their pennies for a couple of thousand Euros.... How cheap can you get in a conglomerate! 

It's actually quite a bit more than just a couple thousand dollars.

If you remember correctly, this was an hour show. The typical "hour show" averages about 47 minutes. you multiply that by $2.47 per minute and you get $116.00 (rounding down) per episode. The show ran for 9 years which gives you at least 200 episodes, so you take the $116 per episode and multiply that by 200 and you wind up with a cost for rating that series for release in that country of $23,200.

Considering the profit margin and the expected sales in that one country, I see why they wouldn't want to pay to have it rated. Especially when you consider the show is being aired there and people already know what it should be rated.


Yes, I picked the "couple of thousand euros" just because so far only two seasons of this series is released on DVD around here, not all 9. At this rate they will have released all seasons by 2013 or something like that. $23,200 in 6 years is not that much for Universal Pictures, I would have thought... 

Anyway, I do understand that the DVD sales will not be diminished one bit due to this K18 rating, so I guess that's money-really-earned, even if it's peanuts for UP.
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I am from Finland and this is just stupid... 


  that's just outrageous!
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It may be that Universal is on principle not submitting to what is an unwarranted fee charged by a governmental agency.  Most of the purchasers of LHOTP in Finland (or anywhere else for that matter) would in all likelihood be adults, and probably parents of children for whom said parents want to get the program.

On Tuesday, Lions Gate released the Little House on the Prairie - The Complete Television Series in the US (R1) on 60 discs with a combined running time of 10,032 minutes.  At $2.47 per minute, Universal would have to pay around $25,000 to get a realistic rating.  Lions Gate executives realize that if they submit to Finland's fee, they set a precedent for doing the same thing in every country where they want to market LHOTP (or any TV series they own).  By letting the Adult rating stand, they have saved at least $25,000 (for the entire series), people in Finland know what the real rating SHOULD be since the program is so popular there, adults will buy the show for themselves and their kids, and if anything Lions Gate will sell more copies because of the "free" publicity articles like the Reuters one cited would generate.  It's a win-win situation for the distributors -- and a lose-lose situation for the tax assessors in Finland.
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Not that uncommon. The down side is that e.g. none of my The 4400 DVD's (also non rated) show up on my online collection cause their rated 18

But what i find strange is that if this has been shown on TV on day time, wouldnt it have to be rated already?
EDIT: seems they dont have to rate the shows o_O
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Not that uncommon. The down side is that e.g. none of my The 4400 DVD's (also non rated) show up on my online collection cause their rated 18


You can always check the two "Adult" boxes in your Online Collection settings, and then they will be visible online.
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