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Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,299 |
| Posted: | | | | Earlier tonight I found myself wondering what the first-ever movie sequel was. A quick Google later and I discovered that it was The Fall of a Nation - the follow-up to the D.W. Griffith classic "The Birth of a Nation." That alone is interesting and worth sharing I thought, but also the fact it was made for what is probably the most common reason even today: money. Thomas F. Dixon Jr. wrote the book and play on which "The Birth of a Nation" was based (titled "The Clansman") but did not receive any royalties from the movie. So he wrote and directed the sequel in an effort to cash in on the original's success. And finally, as I was searching around for this information I also came across an article/review published in the New York Times on June 7, 1916 - the day after "The Fall of a Nation" premiered. It's an interesting read, if for no other reason to see how film was talked about in 1916. Here's the article: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9D06E1D6163BE633A25754C0A9609C946796D6CF&oref=sloginSadly the film is lost and only a few frames and production stills remain. KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS! Dolly's not alone. You can also clone profiles. You've got questions? You've got answers? Take the DVD Profiler Wiki for a spin. | | | Last edited: by Astrakan |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: Earlier tonight I found myself wondering what the first-ever movie sequel was. A quick Google later and I discovered that it was The Fall of a Nation - the follow-up to the D.W. Griffith classic "The Birth of a Nation."
Good Find..,, But now I'm wondering in our present day form,, what would be the first true Movie Sequel?.., Major Movies.,, Not the Andy Hardy type films., But the Major films.. Should it be the Godfather series mid 70's? and the Halloween/Indiana/Star Wars (etc) films came in the 80's .. ? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | There was a sequel made to 'Gone with the Wind' called "Scarlett" in 1994.
It was awful! | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Yes,, but I was kinda thinking about sequels that use some of the actors,, or director or even the sets . That Scarlett film was a TV made movie ripped off on premise alone.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Not sure how you define "major", but there was 'The Thin Man' (1934) followed by 'After the Thin Man' (1936).
'The Thin Man' was nominated for the following Academy Awards:
Best Actor (William Powell) Best Director (W. S. Van Dyke) Best Picture (MGM) Best Adapted Screenplay
I think it would have been considered a "major" movie at the time. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | This may be it.., The Third man series .. thanks | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| Registered: May 1, 2008 | Posts: 503 |
| Posted: | | | | How about Frankenstein in 1931 followed by The Bride of Frankenstein in 1935? They were both Directed by James Whale, and both starred Karloff as the infamous monster, with Bride carrying on (in a fashion) where Frankenstein left off. | | | DVD Blu-Ray LastFM |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | even better !! | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bizarre_eye: Quote: How about Frankenstein in 1931 followed by The Bride of Frankenstein in 1935? They were both Directed by James Whale, and both starred Karloff as the infamous monster, with Bride carrying on (in a fashion) where Frankenstein left off. Yup. That works. | | | Hal |
| Registered: June 3, 2007 | Posts: 333 |
| Posted: | | | | How about The Sheik (1921) and Son of the Sheik (1926) starring Rudolph Valentino?
Or The Mark of Zorro (1920) and Don Q Son of Zorro (1925) starring Douglas Fairbanks?
They're silent but both have continuity in terms of story and actors. |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 129 |
| Posted: | | | | Though much later than many of the mentioned major sequels, aren't we a bit US-centric?
What about the James Bond series or the Carry Ons?
Then there is Fritz Lang's Dr. Mabuse, der Spieler (1922), English title: Dr. Mabuse, the Gambler, followed by Das Testament des Dr. Mabuse (1933), English title: The Testament of Dr. Mabuse, which spawned a new series in the 1960s.
Probably not really counting as sequels are the films based upon Edgar Wallace's work from 1919 onwards, first in Britain, then in Germany, later - through the 1960s - again in Germany and Britain [Merton Parks]. Personally I'd argue them as sequels on the basis that they tried to cash in on the writer's name, particularly obvious in the case of the 1960s' German movies. It has not always been the lead actor, let alone the director being the big name. BTW, 1933 King Kong was followed the same year by Son of Kong.
If we include remakes, and then include new film versions of books, we are again seeing a trend from very early on. Off the cuff I remember The Maltese Falcon from 1931, followed by Satan Met a Lady in 1936, then The Maltese Falcon again in 1941 [not that it ends there]. Anybody with earlier examples? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,414 |
| Posted: | | | | I think we have a winner with Mark of Zorro/Don Q, the Son of Zorro. Both star Fairbanks and are clearly related stories, and I can't think of an earlier sequel of that nature, at least as feature films go---there were assuredly earlier short subject sequels from Edison and Melies. That also leaves aside things that were intentionally released in two parts (plenty of early German silents, such as the Nibelungenlied, would fit that bill). | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." | | | Last edited: by gardibolt |
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