Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1 2  Previous   Next
Microsoft's Encarta to be closed down and Wikipedia to take over..
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,494
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
article explaining Microsofts decison to shut down its Encarta operations..
Since Wikipedia is mostly 'user based'  and is probably not monitored as well as it should , can you imagine the innappropiate, ill informed .,, and misguided information Wikipedia will have on its hands??

In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkarlpov
Registered: March 29, 2007
Posts: 158
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Some sources say Wikipedia is in fact just about as accurate as a conventional encyclopedia, which doesn't mean it's perfect.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
OMG.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 1,796
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Wikipediais is free, you get what you pay for.
We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln
 Last edited: by Srehtims
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormarcelb7
Registered: Oct. 16, 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
Netherlands Posts: 767
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting karlpov:
Quote:
Some sources say Wikipedia is in fact just about as accurate as a conventional encyclopedia, which doesn't mean it's perfect.

And with "some sources", you mean Wikipedia? 
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantjgilligan
Got PEZ?
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 171
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Is the loss of Encarta really that bad?  I actually thought the product died about 10 years ago.

All textbooks and encyclopedias, online or traditional, have errors, no matter who is publishing them.  Many are were skewed by the authors and publishers views.  History texts have left out significant events that didn't fit the vision the author had of what happened, or presented them with extreme bias.

With Wikipedia, we have easy, and public, ways to dispute the information presented.  It can also get corrected easily.  With the traditional paper based encyclopedias, they exist with their errors for many years and the process to get them changed is not as well known.

I think the Wikipedia model is great.  I see it as no more risky than trusting a single printed article.  Whenever you are doing research, you should be using multiple sources.
 Last edited: by jgilligan
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkarlpov
Registered: March 29, 2007
Posts: 158
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting marcelb7:
Quote:
Quoting karlpov:
Quote:
Some sources say Wikipedia is in fact just about as accurate as a conventional encyclopedia, which doesn't mean it's perfect.

And with "some sources", you mean Wikipedia? 

I was actually thinking of a National Public Radio report on Wikipedia quite some time back. The report included several individuals, including some who'd formally researched the matter, concluding that Wikipedia was no worse than conventional encyclopedias. In addition, my personal observation is that Wikipedia is incredibly more inclusive, with articles on such obscure topics as actor Vladek Sheybal, editor Cele Goldsmith Lalli, Playboy Cyber Girls, and the European Buddy Longway comic album series.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDragon 6
Registered: 2/18/2003
Registered: March 29, 2007
Posts: 281
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting karlpov:
Quote:
Some sources say Wikipedia is in fact just about as accurate as a conventional encyclopedia

I would not say it is as accurate as a conventional encyclopedia. Wikipedia's home page states

"Welcome to Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."

"It is Wikipedia policy to add to the encyclopedia only statements that are verifiable, and not to add original research. The Wikipedia style guide encourages editors to cite sources. Sometimes Wikipedians do not follow these policies because they forget or because they are not aware of the policy, and until citations are supplied, readers of the article cannot verify the content in question."

How accurate can a encyclopedia be when anybody can add or edit info. If info can not be verified then you can not know if it is true. At least with a conventional encyclopedia I am trusting that all the info writen within the book is verified before published.

If I use Wikipedia for a source, I also use other sources to back up the info also
 Last edited: by Dragon 6
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantjgilligan
Got PEZ?
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 171
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dragon 6:
Quote:


How accurate can a encyclopedia be when anybody can add or edit info. If info can not be verified then you can not know if it is true. At least with a conventional encyclopedia I am trusting that all the info writen within the book is verified before published.



That's the point exactly.  We have to trust the publishers of the 'real' encyclopedias just like we have to trust the people who are editing Wikipedia. The 'real' encyclopedias have been found to be inaccurate or incomplete quite a few times.

The 'real' encyclopedias don't usually state where the information comes from, we are asked to blindly trust the editor.  With Wikipedia, at least the sources of the information are 'supposed' to be shared so that we have some basis for the trust.


Neither one is perfect.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
My favorite Wikipedia subject is this one.
Dan
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkarlpov
Registered: March 29, 2007
Posts: 158
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dragon 6:
Quote:
How accurate can a encyclopedia be when anybody can add or edit info. If info can not be verified then you can not know if it is true. At least with a conventional encyclopedia I am trusting that all the info writen within the book is verified before published.

If I use Wikipedia for a source, I also use other sources to back up the info also

Orson Scott Card complained about an error which he found in Wikipedia's entry on him, an error which appeared in many other sources. He would correct it, and the Wiki-users would immediately, on the basis of multiple sources, "correct" it back. Errors can become widely reported, so "verifying" a "fact" by checking several sources isn't always a great idea. (Nor, obviously, is Wikipedia immune to this problem, but no one is claiming that it is inerrant, only that it has wound up as pretty much as trustworthy as an old conventional printed multivolume encyclopedia.)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
Registered: May 1, 2002
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 6,744
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting karlpov:
Quote:
Orson Scott Card complained about an error which he found in Wikipedia's entry on him, an error which appeared in many other sources. He would correct it, and the Wiki-users would immediately, on the basis of multiple sources, "correct" it back. Errors can become widely reported, so "verifying" a "fact" by checking several sources isn't always a great idea. (Nor, obviously, is Wikipedia immune to this problem, but no one is claiming that it is inerrant, only that it has wound up as pretty much as trustworthy as an old conventional printed multivolume encyclopedia.)


Something similar happened here a few months ago. We got a new Minister for Economic who has 10 firstnames already. Some joker added an eleventh firstname. The very next day the biggest german tabloid printed all 11 firstnames on their frontpage.

From there it spreaded to other newspapers and it became virtually impossible to remove that eleventh name from Wikipedia - at least for a while.

see also
Karsten
DVD Collectors Online

DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,917
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
My favorite Wikipedia subject is this one.

But that's not wikipedia...  Uses the same software but not the same site.

Just sayin'
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
My favorite Wikipedia subject is this one.

But that's not wikipedia...  Uses the same software but not the same site.

Just sayin'

Uh, well..... and you didn't get it?
Dan
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,917
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Uh, well..... and you didn't get it?

Get what?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Uh, well..... and you didn't get it?

Get what?

It isn't Wikipedia.... I don't like wikipedia...... get it?
Dan
    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1 2  Previous   Next