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DVD organization - where should the numbers go?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantxradman
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I currently have my movies organized alphabetically by title/series (Batman movies under B in chronological order).  I'm currently debating on whether to have numbered titles (2001, 12 monkeys, 30 days of nights) in alphabetical or numerical order (preceeding alphabetical titles).  Any comments on pros and cons?  If you go by numerical order, does it make any sense to put 2001 ahead of 30 days of nights (going by 1st number)?
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Using a numerical database means numeric appear before alpha characters (letters) and that 2001 would come before 30 as 2 is a lower number than 3.  This is a standard convention.
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I do them in numerical order if that's the way the title is written.

But in the sort title field, I use a 9-character number for every number, so '9 to 5' is entered as '000000009 to 5'; '2001' is entered '000002001'; '10 Million Years B.C.' would be '010000000 Million years B.C.'; etc.

That way all the numerics are actually in numeric order.
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I change the sort title to spell the title in words. "2001: A Space Odyssey" > "Two Thousand One: A Space Odyssey" Using this method, titles appear in my collection as they would in a book like Leonard Maltin's guide, for example. It's also how I find them in stores.

It's personal preference though of course.
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I do it like hal9g, only with just 4 digits, since my highest is "The 4400"

So I have

0001st Knight
0036th Chamber of Shaolin
0101 Dalamatians
0300
4400
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I do it like hal9g, only with just 4 digits, since my highest is "The 4400"

So I have

0001st Knight
0036th Chamber of Shaolin
0101 Dalamatians
0300
4400

For those that are using numerical sorting, what do you do for titles like "The Ninth Gate"?  Do you file it under 9 or N?

(I just noticed that you filed First Knight under 1st Knight, so that answers my question)
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For those that are using numerical sorting, what do you do for titles like "The Ninth Gate"?  Do you file it under 9 or N?

(I just noticed that you filed First Knight under 1st Knight, so that answers my question)


Yeah I went that way because sometimes the same title is spelled as number and sometimes as text so I decided to file any title that starts with a number (digit or otherwise) as number.

I also transcribe german umlauts into their alternate spelling because if I wouldn't transcribe "Ölprinz" into "Oelprinz", DVDP would sort it after Z.
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I do it the same way Hal does.  However, if the number is written out, I sort by the word.
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0001st Knight
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Karsten: I bought my copy of First Knight in Kiel, Germany.
It's German name is "Der 1. Ritter", could that be the reason of using "1" and not "F(irst)" ?
Or do you convert every text-based numeral to numbers?


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file any title that starts with a number (digit or otherwise) as number.

Answered!
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file any title that starts with a number (digit or otherwise) as number.

Answered!


OK.

My reason for this is the same argument I use in the "title rule" discussion. I am simply not able (and don't want to) to memorize every cover of my DVDs. So when I think about "First Knight" (or as you correctly put it "Der 1. Ritter" in german) I don't want to think about how the cover might have spelled the "1". So, in order to find this title, I eitehr sort by title and look where I would look for any numbered title or I substring filter for "ritter".
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I do mine the same as Hal, as well, but also with only four digits.

I only worry about the actual numeric character as well.  So 2 Million Minutes would be sorted as 0002 Million Minutes.

It makes more sense to my brain to sort:
- in this order: 101 Dalmatians, 300, 1408
- rather than:  101 Dalmatians, 1408, 300
I know that isn't the standard, but it makes more sense in my brain. 

As far as titles like Ninth Gate, I sort those by the word.  I don't covert Ninth to 9th.
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Yeah I went that way because sometimes the same title is spelled as number and sometimes as text so I decided to file any title that starts with a number (digit or otherwise) as number

Funny,
for the same reason I went exactly the other way and sorted them all alphabetical:
12 Monkeys -> Twelve Monkeys.

In the end it's again a matter of personal preferences, the only thing of importance is that you are able to find the titles where you would expect them.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
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I do them in numerical order if that's the way the title is written.

But in the sort title field, I use a 9-character number for every number, so '9 to 5' is entered as '000000009 to 5'; '2001' is entered '000002001'; '10 Million Years B.C.' would be '010000000 Million years B.C.'; etc.

That way all the numerics are actually in numeric order.


I do the same though with 5-character numbers.  10 Million Years BC is therefore 00010 Million under my system.
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