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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsamuelrichardscott
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I hate you.

That is all.
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did they mess up a shipment of your movies or something?
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Here in the UK they are on strike 3 days a week right now. They're screwing with my small business (I live in a very very rural area, and the sheer amount of mail we drop means it's not financially viable to go another route) and they just don't seem to know what they want. Yes, I do think they the RM workers are getting a bit screwed over, but the fact is that they are probably the best paid non-skilled workers in the UK. They are on strike because of changes in conditions and the fact RM are pushing forward modernisation. Not so bad no? Well they last went on strike because they WANTED modernisation.  

They're just ruining their own jobs IMO. A lot of big companies have moved away from them now they aren't reliable. RIP RM.
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I hate you.

That is all.


C'mon, tell us how you really feel 
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I'm waiting for someone to say that it would all be better if it was the Royal Scottish Mail!       
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Here in the UK they are on strike 3 days a week right now. They're screwing with my small business (I live in a very very rural area, and the sheer amount of mail we drop means it's not financially viable to go another route) and they just don't seem to know what they want. Yes, I do think they the RM workers are getting a bit screwed over, but the fact is that they are probably the best paid non-skilled workers in the UK. They are on strike because of changes in conditions and the fact RM are pushing forward modernisation. Not so bad no? Well they last went on strike because they WANTED modernisation.  

They're just ruining their own jobs IMO. A lot of big companies have moved away from them now they aren't reliable. RIP RM.


Hence why vital industry's must remain publicly owned. The modernization as you put is cost cutting to maximise profits which is different from what they last striked on.

A damned if you don't and damned if you do situation. You might have gotten to the point in your life where you don't have to go to work everyday and worry about money but these ppl do.

I sympathise with you but you did by choice chose to set a business in a rural area. Just be grateful for the council tax freeze and cuts on small business rates.
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My biggest problem is that the RM agreed to talks but the CWU are not taking the workers into consideration themselves. They seem almost militant. Ah well, if they are as poorly paid as they say they are, they will go back to work soon enough when mortgage payment time comes around and savings disappear.
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My biggest problem is that the RM agreed to talks but the CWU are not taking the workers into consideration themselves. They seem almost militant. Ah well, if they are as poorly paid as they say they are, they will go back to work soon enough when mortgage payment time comes around and savings disappear.


Yeah well all this stupid communist nonsense that surrounds the unions kind of drives a Fidel Castro mentality in all there members. I know what there striking for it's just they seem as a collective to dumb to actuality articulate and make progress with there employers.

Takes me back to the 80's so it does.
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And with their previous walkout they were not allowed to do overtime to clean it up - hopefully that will continue. 

If they were given overtime to sort/deliver the mail which they hadn't done during their normal working then that would just encouerage them to go on strike every week from now until they retire.. after all they would be still doing only 5 days work - but for more money. (and the inconvenience to everybody else..)

- and it isn't just modernisation they are now obnjecting to, they want guarantees of work for life.

yeah.. right..
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And with their previous walkout they were not allowed to do overtime to clean it up - hopefully that will continue. 

If they were given overtime to sort/deliver the mail which they hadn't done during their normal working then that would just encouerage them to go on strike every week from now until they retire.. after all they would be still doing only 5 days work - but for more money. (and the inconvenience to everybody else..)

- and it isn't just modernisation they are now obnjecting to, they want guarantees of work for life.

yeah.. right..


That's why im going back to collage to learn a skill so even if i do end up on the scrap heap again i can pull myself out quickly.

Hell no im i working in another supermarket or something as meaningless as that again.
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That's why im going back to collage

You probably mean "college", do you?
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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That's why im going back to collage

You probably mean "college", do you?


Yeah im dyslexic and a combination of a very literal brain i often mixed words i wasn't meaning a visual art form lol
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And with their previous walkout they were not allowed to do overtime to clean it up - hopefully that will continue. 


I hope the courts throw out the CWU's attempt at an injunction tomorrow. The 30,000 people the RM have taken on for Xmas should be allowed to do their job that they have been hired for.
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And with their previous walkout they were not allowed to do overtime to clean it up - hopefully that will continue. 


I hope the courts throw out the CWU's attempt at an injunction tomorrow. The 30,000 people the RM have taken on for Xmas should be allowed to do their job that they have been hired for.


I agree it's just hypocrisy trying to get an injunction.
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Not forgetting that one of the complaints is that they used to get paid for a (say) 12 hour shift whether they took all 12 hours to get it done or not so if they had a slack day which finished after 7 hours they went home and got paid the full 12... now the management, not unreasonably, says if they want to get paid for 12 hours they actually have to work it...

The ridiculous thing to me (apart from the fact they don't seem to be able to accept that they are NOT a special case when it comes to "we can automate that now so there will redundancies in the areas automated" which affects all other matrket sectors) is that management point out there has been a drop off in letters (replaced by emails) but an increase in packets (us DVD buyers!) so they are hoping to minimise any redundancies due to the drop off by moving more towards the packets sector... then the workers screw it up by going on strike causing their biggest single packet customer (Amazon) to back out of a £25 million packet deal! Well done lads, way to think ahead...
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