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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | In the British isles when Blu-rays first made there apprentice we had the same awesome slim cases that America and Canada get
Suddenly they changed them to the fat horrible cases. Why did they change this? With all this environmentalism coming into the industry why change to a case that has more plastic and cost more than a slim.
I thought it might have been the BBFC sighting the logo was not visible enough but ITV DVD bring out there Blu-rays in slim cases.
Any one got any answers about this. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,946 |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
Not to mention the closet space you loose. 2 HD keep cases take the same space as 3 HD Slim cases. They like that in Belgium to? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
They like that in Belgium to? And even Japan as far as I know. The only UK Blu-ray that I've ever purchased that actually came in an HD-Slim was The Boys from Brazil. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
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Not to mention the closet space you loose. 2 HD keep cases take the same space as 3 HD Slim cases.
They like that in Belgium to? No, in Belgium, we have mostly slim cases and fat prices, so I purchase most of my Blu's in the UK  | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
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They like that in Belgium to?
And even Japan as far as I know.
The only UK Blu-ray that I've ever purchased that actually came in an HD-Slim was The Boys from Brazil. Im really impressed with the HD content ITV DVD are bringing. Despite The 39 Steps being a rubbish transfer lack of special features and no extended cut of The Eagle Has Landed. I think Funeral In Berlin is on it's way as a new DVD special edition is coming. So ether paramount or ITV DVD have the rights to that im not sure. A Night To Remember and The Quiller Memorandum are another two im highly looking forward to. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
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Not to mention the closet space you loose. 2 HD keep cases take the same space as 3 HD Slim cases.
They like that in Belgium to?
No, in Belgium, we have mostly slim cases and fat prices, so I purchase most of my Blu's in the UK Exactly. Over here it's not the cases but the prices that are fat. So "fat" chance of me ordering Blu-rays in my home country!  | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 485 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
...Suddenly they changed them to the fat horrible cases. Why did they change this?...
I thought it might have been the BBFC sighting the logo was not visible enough but ITV DVD bring out there Blu-rays in slim cases... The 'fat' BR/HD-DVD case AKA of standard width is the same as the standard DVD case. The half width DVD slim case has been in popular demand everywhere since it allows double as many disks in a cabinet. But the spine is very thin for any text, so the HD slim case is inbetween -- a solution between customer demand and industry (read: sales) needs. No relation to age certificates AFAIK, these are already prominently on the front and back in many countries. The story for the UK is, as I've read a few years ago, that an awful lot of retailers use some kind of protection slot to stick the case in, which will set off an alarm when passing through the exit. This slot is tailored to the standard width of the case (this is also why on the side that you open with your fingers, you can see on these UK cases two rectangular openings for this slot, so you cannot remove the slot by simply sliding the case out). Only properly removed slots at the cashiers desk will give you the disk(s) without alarming the shop. The HD slim case does not follow the size requirements of those slots, so there was a huge demand from retailers to keep to the standard width casings. Otherwise retailers would have to buy huge quantities of slots fit for the slimmer cases. Also, in the end, the customer would have paid for that. Anyway, since distributors depend on retailers for the largest (AFAIK) chunk of sales, there's the answer to your question. Give me a world without shoplifting and the UK would have HD slim cases as well...  I've visited the UK many times, have seen that security device, and I haven't seen it elsewhere in Europe. So I guess that's why especially UK editions have the standard cases in contrast to the rest of Europe. As for ITV, possibly others... I do not know their reasons. Let say exception to the rule. (Don't get me wrong. Shoplifting is inherent to mankind around the globe. This is about a specific UK attempt to have a solution against it). | | | Eric
If it is important, say it. Otherwise, let silence speak. | | | | Last edited: by eommen |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting eommen: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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...Suddenly they changed them to the fat horrible cases. Why did they change this?...
I thought it might have been the BBFC sighting the logo was not visible enough but ITV DVD bring out there Blu-rays in slim cases...
The 'fat' BR/HD-DVD case AKA of standard width is the same as the standard DVD case. The half width DVD slim case has been in popular demand everywhere since it allows double as many disks in a cabinet. But the spine is very thin for any text, so the HD slim case is inbetween -- a solution between customer demand and industry (read: sales) needs. No relation to age certificates AFAIK, these are already prominently on the front and back in many countries.
The story for the UK is, as I've read a few years ago, that an awful lot of retailers use some kind of protection slot to stick the case in, which will set off an alarm when passing through the exit. This slot is tailored to the standard width of the case (this is also why on the side that you open with your fingers, you can see on these UK cases two rectangular openings for this slot, so you cannot remove the slot by simply sliding the case out). Only properly removed slots at the cashiers desk will give you the disk(s) without alarming the shop.
The HD slim case does not follow the size requirements of those slots, so there was a huge demand from retailers to keep to the standard width casings. Otherwise retailers would have to buy huge quantities of slots fit for the slimmer cases. Also, in the end, the customer would have paid for that. Anyway, since distributors depend on retailers for the largest (AFAIK) chunk of sales, there's the answer to your question.
Give me a world without shoplifting and the UK would have HD slim cases as well...
I've visited the UK many times, have seen that security device, and I haven't seen it elsewhere in Europe. So I guess that's why especially UK editions have the standard cases in contrast to the rest of Europe. As for ITV, possibly others... I do not know their reasons. Let say exception to the rule.
(Don't get me wrong. Shoplifting is inherent to mankind around the globe. This is about a specific UK attempt to have a solution against it). Yet another reason to hate the UK lol |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 485 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't understand your response. So the retailers efforts may be bad for those wanting slim cases, but the shoplifters are to blame, nobody else. Anybody having a better solution (one of the main criteria beside theft prevention being also commercial viability for in retail) can make a fortune -- not everybody buys solely on the net.
BTW you often put Scotland against the rest of the UK, but this really is UK-wide. Seen the protection slots in Glasgow and Edinburgh as well... | | | Eric
If it is important, say it. Otherwise, let silence speak. | | | | Last edited: by eommen |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think that eommen might be talking about Red Tag. I've bought several titles from different stores where they forgot to take them out, got the DVD/Blu-ray home and then found out the tag had been left in! No, the alarm didn't go off when leaving thus making the primary point of them redundant! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I got something like that once when I ordered from Play.com, must have been a shop return. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting eommen: Quote:
Don't understand your response. So the retailers efforts may be bad for those wanting slim cases, but the shoplifters are to blame, nobody else. Anybody having a better solution (one of the main criteria beside theft prevention being also commercial viability for in retail) can make a fortune -- not everybody buys solely on the net.
BTW you often put Scotland against the rest of the UK, but this really is UK-wide. Seen the protection slots in Glasgow and Edinburgh as well... More or less this is applicable to England more than Scotland. Because England is a country of 50 million ppl and Scotland only 5 million we tend to get the $hity end of the stick in most things as part of the UK. |
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| Registered: October 19, 2008 | | Posts: 409 |
| | Posted: | | | | I prefer the fat ones. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | [Michael_Scott_mode]
...that's what she said
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