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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am in the middle of watching this...has taken me two days so far...and I don't remember it being this bad. I honestly don't know if I will be able to finish it. I thought I liked it, which is why I bought it, but I think it was the Hobbit I was remembering.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 599 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh yes, it is that bad. I remember seeing in it in its original theatrical run and being very displeased with it. And you're probably right about The Hobbit, it was better, but that's not saying much. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I am in the middle of watching this...has taken me two days so far...and I don't remember it being this bad. I honestly don't know if I will be able to finish it. I thought I liked it, which is why I bought it, but I think it was the Hobbit I was remembering. Yeah, it was horrible. I had a tough time getting through it (and had to for my review). | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I cannot recall enjoying any Ralph Bakshi animation. I met him once: he was bright, pleasant, very nice. I liked him -- a lot. When I tried to pleasantly confront him on the "Wizards" = Cobalt 60 (which was 10 pages in Witzend) parallels, he admitted to Bode's work being an "influence" but little more. I didn't press the matter. "The Hobbit" was made by Rankin/Bass, who, while being more limited in budget, seemed far less limited in imagination. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes, it really is horrible. I thought the animation looked like crap due to bad use of rotoscoping. Rotoscoping can be good. See A Scanner Darkly for an example of that. Also, the screenplay makes no sense. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | I really want to like it, but the bad rotoscoping really kills it for me. I have a personal fondness for it anyway due to the circumstances under which I saw it in 1979.  I do love Wizards, though. I didn't think the Bode influence was any mystery, though---seemed obvious from the second I saw the character designs. The Rankin/Bass Hobbit though is much, much, much worse IMHO. Ghastly songs---who thought making Tolkien into a musical was a good idea? | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | To echo the others, yes, it really is that bad.
I didn't object to the bad rotoscoping as much as the butt-ugly character designs.
The Hobbit & The Return of the King - both Rankin/Bass productions - are much better, with The Hobbit being the better of the two. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | There is still really a wide open ground for anyone who wishes to do a faithful animated version of The Lord of the Rings. It could be made better even than the live action films with the right helm. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Glad to hear I wasn't the only one. I don't think I have ever not finished a film, but I really don't think I am going to finish this one.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm sorry, Martian. I would have advised against the buy had I known. Most of Bakshi's work is a bit ummmm eccentric maybe. But to try and pcak three novels (big ones at that) into one show just isn't going to work in any form. The Hobbit was credible, but his LOTR just didn't get it. 1/2* MAYBE
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,044 |
| | Posted: | | | | Skip your being generous at half a star. If it were possible I' give it a negative 5.  Rory  (BTW I did like Rankin and Bass' "The Hobbit" tho.) | | | DVD Profiler for iOS as of 3/5/2013
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